Timur is too powerful. How can I deal with him? What is the Ottoman war mechanism against Timur? Can a country outside of Timur unify the country by exploiting the disasters?

Hmmm, is there anything in the logs?

I switched to Timur and unvassalized myself, after that there were no crashes with mod enabled

I have the same crash as the ottomans when im a vassal of them but im also still on 1.07

I think it should be fine as long as the disaster is not firing.

Last update save file compatibility? Or need a new game? I stop 1340

thats odd...

Became Timur’s vassal as the Ottomans, and now the game is crashing after Timmy declares war on someone else. Disabling the mod seems to fix it

Would you be able to add a modifier to make it far less likely that Timur dies before 1360, did an observation run and I had to reload an autosave 6 times before 1360 because he kept dying before the event could even fire.

Oh.... yeah that would do it, since qara qoyunlu and aq qoyunlu would need a new game to appear. Explains the uncolonized lands in the armenian highlands.

Forgot to say, but I installed the mod midgame, maybe it is what caused those bugs ?

@kuzeyduma7 Hm, that could work, but i'd have to do it while not overwriting the vanilla event for timurid invading ottomans.

@kawwaiicat yeah, ive been continuing to have problems with the timurid colonizing, even though i added a modifier that prevents them, i honestly have no idea why they do it.

I had an idea for an extra flavor / alt-history path that might fit your mod well:
Historically, the correspondence between Timur and Bayezid was full of insults and threats, but also had a diplomatic dimension. In game, maybe there could be an event chain similar to how the Ottomans and Byzantium interact in Rise of the Turks. If the Ottomans choose to appease him, Timur would never march deep into Anatolia (or at least have a very low chance to), which then redirect their march towards china.

Upon further testing, the colonies integrate upon the death of Timur. I think this may have to do with the Legacy of Cinggis Khan reform?

Found a weird bug as well. The Timurids began colonizing Karakoram in the Tarim area. The land appears as occupied by the Timurids, despite being owned by no one. The land also has 100 development, even before the colonization was done. Upon tagging into Timurids and playing around with the population a bit, I see the issue. The Timurids keep sending a charter, and every time they receive the event The Failed Colony of ____ (colonial_charter.200), which states the colonization failed due to Chagatai- even though Chagatai doesn't have a charter in this area. The event ends the Timurid charter and leaves the land uncolonized, BUT adds five development to the province and leaves the population intact. I think the Timurids just kept sending charters to this area, until it hit 100 development- and at some point the game bugged out into the Timurids occupying the uncolonized land.

I think i fixed it with the update i just pushed

When timurids collapsed, they left uncolonized lands in iraq area but why?

huh, the second one is weird, ill check it out, first one, should have fixed this today... ill check again

Hey had two weird bugs, the first being that timurid stole two of my vassal without my consent, and two when they imploded they left uncolonized land around the armenian highland-azerbaijan-jazira areas

@Paul Really? He never does anything in my games in vanilla

Damn, an even better timurids? tamerlane took everything from finland to afghanistan in the south and china as i was playing normally

The settled country part is weird, but it should momentarily be Timurs tribute till his death

Had a weird thing where Golden Horde was turned into a Settled Country and a Tribute by Timur so they don't implode. Would like if there was a way so if Golden Horde is defeated they implode regardless of whatever happens.

Unless you switched off the gamerule, I made it so Timur doesn't insta-conquer land outside of the lands of his historic empire.The tributary part is half broken, it shouldnt tribute your vassals but you, so you should keep your tribute, no idea why why that happened, ill have to fix that. Brave of you to fight Timur.

I had Timur attack me while I was playing Ottomans and honestly it's insane to be on the receiving end of Timur. He takes any forts in a few days, his armies are uber powerful, he insta conquers. Basically I peaced him out for some money and sound tolls, but then it completely ignores the content of the peace treaty and release all my (many) vassals as Timur's tributaries. At the end I had to get a white peace via console as it was a ragequit moment to lose 10+ vassals with no counterplay. I feel like you should make fighting back possible: give Timur a really good CB with low conquer cost, but get rid of the insta-conquer. Playing against that as a player is a nightmare. Also should get rid of the forced vassal release.

I'll check but, it might just be a compatibility problem.

yes im sure because when i remove your mod my save continues to past 1375 i dont know error log i searched whats reason for ctd for two days . then i try your mod maybe its not compatible other mod i dont know

You sure? I've been getting well past 1375. Anything in the error log?

if someone crash like me every new game on 1375 this mod the cause

I'll see, at this point the mod might go slightly beyond timurids.

Can you do something like this for the Ottomans? They're really underpowered throughout the entire game

Finally, Timur appears not as the chief of a meadow village, but as the ruler

I think there might be an immortality modifier that i could give till the 1400's then just use event to remove him.

Can you give Timur some kind of immunity to random deaths? In my game he dropped in his 40s. I think leading armies in the Steppes has a relatively high death chance.

My suggestion to put him on rails might be to create a specific CB against members of the Ilkhanate. That way, he can advance that way far more easily and it might encourage his AI to do so. I might also make his arrival trigger an event that makes Ilkhanate vassals disloyal, as right now they are far more stable than they were IRL.

1360's is when Timur spawns in the base game, so you still have to wait for his natural spawning.

So, about when would this mod come into effect? In vanilla, I've played several games and I haven't seen any trace of the Timurids.