Actually, our team of 4 tried many times and got skilled as well, but some mechanics or gimmicks of the enemies makes the game ridiculously unfun to play, like weakened debuff, just one-shots, even toughest classes become squishies. also from 3-5 layers of insectoid hive is frustratingly hard and not fun, traps and boulders that instakills, enemies with weaking debuff that instakills, queen that does absurd amount of damage with her clique and dies only to boulders... we never stepped over citadel and never will if we cant deal with these problems...

引用自 BLINKONECHNO：

Actually, our team of 4 tried many times and got skilled as well, but some mechanics or gimmicks of the enemies makes the game ridiculously unfun to play, like weakened debuff, just one-shots, even toughest classes become squishies. also from 3-5 layers of insectoid hive is frustratingly hard and not fun, traps and boulders that instakills, enemies with weaking debuff that instakills, queen that does absurd amount of damage with her clique and dies only to boulders... we never stepped over citadel and never will if we cant deal with these problems...

The insectoid hive is an optional challange zone reserved for the most hardened veterans.Honeatly just avoid it, the reward from it is the bragging rights that you beated it.

Actual reward is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ due to the effort exertrted, and the fact that the queen fight is the hardest boss in the hc+ plus mod