Victoria 3

Victoria 3

[1.11] War Support Rework
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Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 9 月 23 日 上午 8:37 
Did a quick test to see if anything broke due to 1.10 update - seems to work fine, and from changelogs it seems like nothing affecting my mod was added so it's probably fine. Gonna do a proper test in a few days and update the mod to get rid of version mismatch warning
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 9 月 13 日 上午 9:02 
@Hehodas thanks a lot man
there will be another update about optional political side of war support later down the line, but I'm preoccupied with irl stuff rn so it's gonna be done later :)
Hehodas 9 月 12 日 下午 3:19 
This is the best war exhaustion rework on the workshop, hands down
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 17 日 上午 6:01 
@A.R.B.E. hello! yes it does
A.R.B.E. 8 月 17 日 上午 3:51 
Hi there! Is this mod working with Ultra Historical Warfare?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 6 日 上午 4:02 
@Frenchy it should because of the war support, but they still can capitulate due to loans
Frenchy 8 月 6 日 上午 12:33 
Will this prevent swayed countries from randomly capitulating during a long war?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 5 日 上午 7:05 
@Excel.exe thanks a lot, glad you liked it
Excel.exe 8 月 4 日 下午 6:29 
Damn this has actually fixed war for me, and not in a way that's easily abuseable against the AI unlike other reworks. Great mod, thank you
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 3 日 上午 10:08 
@Jared thanks a lot :)
Jared 8 月 3 日 上午 9:54 
such a goated mod
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 3 日 上午 4:57 
"Lead and Letters" - the first major update - is out now! Check out changelog for more info!
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 2 日 上午 6:19 
@시아츠
added it to a description, thanks
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 2 日 上午 6:18 
@Excel.exe sorry, somehow missed your comment
didn't test it myself, but it should work
yg233976 8 月 2 日 上午 6:08 
@Theoretician thx,thats my dreamed mod,you really help me a lot
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 8 月 1 日 上午 10:30 
Major hotfix regarding issues with structs from other mods using CMF is out - I advice everyone to resubscribe for download
The most noticible thing is that Expanded Topbar Framework now works properly
Sunsphere11 7 月 31 日 下午 9:21 
@Nosfer no, the Netherlands wanted to peace out (and were partially occupied and blockaded) but couldn't because Italy had high war enthusiasm.
Theoretician 7 月 31 日 下午 6:45 
@Nosfer Great, I hope PDX agree with your suggestion! Peace/capitulation is really frustratingly implemented in V3 currently. P.S. thanks for this mod!
시아츠 7 月 31 日 下午 6:26 
Excel.exe 7 月 31 日 下午 4:49 
Would this work with overhaul mods like Realms of Exether?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 31 日 下午 3:31 
@Theoretician oh yeah, thanks for info, I know the guy who made it, we talk on modding discord from time to time
my mod is a bit of a different take though :) I made suggestion to PDX to add same modding capabilities to peace desire and capitulation desire by the way. We'll see, maybe they'll add it one day
Theoretician 7 月 31 日 上午 11:58 
@yg233976 @Nosfer There's a recent mod that got around the "war support can only drop below 0 with all war goals taken" thing by making countries capitulate at 0 war support and adjusting WS gain/loss to balance around that. Appreciate that's not the same aim as this mod, but it may be of interest and means wars don't require taking every last tiny wargoal.
I haven't tested it extensively, but presumably it helps with those endless world wars with loads of stupid AI wargoals in the middle of India etc.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3474730999
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 31 日 上午 6:06 
@yg233976 hello, not that I know of. It seems hardcoded this way
yg233976 7 月 31 日 上午 4:31 
Hi,do you know if there is any way to remove this mechanism?
war_support can only drop below 0 if the opposing side controlled all their war_goals
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 28 日 上午 3:12 
@CengizHan I'm sorry, what title? Not sure I understand
CengizHan 7 月 27 日 上午 11:42 
Could you please create a title? I would like to share the Turkish translation.
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 27 日 上午 11:07 
@Sunsphere well, Italy is only fighting because it doesn't want to drop its ally, which in this sutiation is a war leader. Sometimes AI can have enough peace acceptance for white peace but it still won't accept it, it's a vanilla thing
you just need to keep pressing Netherlands - either conquer it's territory or wait until war support reaches zero/they have too much debt
Sunsphere11 7 月 27 日 上午 10:46 
@Nosfer Netherlands was the war leader.
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 27 日 上午 4:22 
@yg233976 thanks, added it do description
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 27 日 上午 2:17 
@Sunsphere11 was Italy a war leader or was it Netherlands?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 27 日 上午 2:09 
yeah, I think I know what you're talking about
will look into it
Sunsphere11 7 月 26 日 下午 8:40 
Encountered an issue/oversight. Was fighting against Italy and the Netherlands, Netherlands was willing to peace out but Italy wasn't despite having achieved all its war goals against my capitulated allies. Needs some sort of check where a country with no contested war goals is automatically willing to peace out if their allies who do have war goals are happy with the peace deal.
SpardaSon21 7 月 26 日 下午 3:57 
Sweet-looking event!
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 26 日 下午 3:32 
not in mod yet, but I'm thiking about doing something like that, like if there's a lack of progress for a significant time you'll have jingoistic IGs rallying their supporters around an idea that current government is too weak to properly wage a war
henrito13 7 月 26 日 下午 2:45 
idk if this is already in the mod, but i think there should be a chance for a military junta to take over should wars be going for a while, (more likely in autocratic countries, less likely in democratic countries) like what happened during ww1 to the german empire
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 26 日 上午 10:49 
@SpardaSon21
Been experimenting with events from results of battle - I will include a few in the next big update
https://imgur.com/a/DdWMNIC
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 26 日 上午 9:32 
alright, I'll look into it
devastation is one of the things that affects peace acceptance by AI, so I balanced it a bit too, but maybe too much :)
Sir Canuck 7 月 26 日 上午 9:15 
This is a great mod, but I've noticed that due to the long length of wars devastation tends to hike massively and leads to like 10% of the population dying off in some major wars, even if you didn't actually occupy much land - even more if you did. Could you maybe look into reducing the rate at which devastation increases and increasing the speed at which it dissipates?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 26 日 上午 3:43 
good idea, I'll think about it
SpardaSon21 7 月 25 日 下午 7:15 
I guessed that much from the description. One of the things I liked about The Great Rework before it shut down was that a chain of multiple victories in a row would trigger an event that would give your war support a boost as people rallied behind your victorious forces.

Defeat clearly doesn't need one of its own though considering you're already getting nailed from casualties as well as potentially occupation.

After all, even the Crimean War took almost two and a half years to finish up, and that was a relatively minor conflict.
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 25 日 下午 4:50 
not yet, right now there are just 4 types of events (very good, good, bad and very bad)
chances of them are changing depending on your war support, so basically a chances of getting good events are higher with high war support and vice versa
I'm thinking about expanding this stuff, like adding pacifist rallies backed up by IGs, events based on the battles etc, but it's all in theory right now
SpardaSon21 7 月 25 日 下午 4:34 
Are there any events to boost flagging war support, like dramatic victories or retaking lost ground?
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 25 日 上午 11:58 
yeah man, sure, no problem
just wait a bit, I'm gonna post some fixes tomorrow
Fulmicotone 7 月 25 日 上午 11:56 
Man, wonderful job, lemme know if I can add it to Project Variety (obv I'll give you credit in the mod's description)
Nosfer 😂👌🏻  [作者] 7 月 25 日 上午 3:13 
Sadly there's not much you can do about cases when both sides are sitting with zero WS and not going for peace. Peace acceptance and capitulation desire are not accessible for modding like war exhaustion. You can only tweak defines for them.

I did some tweaks, like loans are twice as strong for peace acceptance so countries don't default themselves

These situations are rarer in my experience, but still can happen
yg233976 7 月 24 日 下午 11:38 
Difficult to achieve some quirky war goals can get stuck in a situation where there is zero war support on both sides, can you solve this problem?
Hank Kitts 7 月 24 日 下午 9:49 
Hopefully it also stops the issue with two countries going to war for 40+ decades, had that constantly screw up my Alaska runs.
CaesarVincens 7 月 24 日 下午 1:30 
If you've ever had war exhaustion screw you over, this is the mod for you.