yeah, it's a bit scary to be honest.
lol.

Its definitely a learning process, there are a lot of resources out there for getting started.

There's a lot of info hidden under the hood that explain things the game doesnt tell you.

and i feel like that i am way to stupid to start out with modding and things of that sort.
seems very complicated at times.
sorry for all the questions!

instantly upvoting this!
thank you for the bug report!

Maybe the next update will fix it we'll see

@HotPizza87 No, this is a hard coded/engine issue with fire and move. I made a bug report [community.creative-assembly.com] 7 months ago so it's doubtful it will be fixed.

You could upvote or make another bug report and hope it will be fixed, but I doubt it.

Idk check on rpfm. If it edits projectiles_tables, specifically any artillery specific projectile (cannon balls, wight abilities, etc.) then it will not be compatible and you will need to merge changes.

oh and is your mod compatible with this mod linked right here?
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3548112471&searchtext=line+sight

you said this about the other mods.

If the other mod updates the values I will probably remove the cannon changes and keep the bomb throwing changes. I searched for other bombs abilities that didn't target center mass but couldn't find others, let me know if that isn't the case.

Does this stop missile cavalry targeting all ammunition onto one entity?

Yes still works, no idea about other mods, just try it and see what happens. Or open up those mods yourself and check in RPFM, it really isnt that hard to set up.

did the other mods update their values?

still works yes?

no you

i think this mod don't work

I dont think the patch changes any of this, its probably still fine

Shows as out of date. Does that matter or is it still good to use with the latest patch (Sept 2025)

nope

Cannons you say. So I assume Bretonias stone yeeters aren't affected?

yes

Is this mod compatible with Vanilla saves?

Still working, check your mod list. Nothing in the hotfix made changes to this.

This mod seems to no longer work

is this mod not required anymore with the newest hotfix that is avaiable now?

Will this mod affect artillery battles like "Imperial Cannons vs Dwarf Cannons"?

no idea. It probably doesnt, I can see that mod changing those table entries. Plus this doesnt affect any mod units

Does it work with sfo?

The first one is not an artillery projectile, but the riflemen on the vehicle.

The second technically obeys more of the rocket artillery rules, which doesn't target center.

The non-ror helblaster also has prefer center disabled. I am keeping this limited to non-shrapnel type artillery. Not like they need much of a buff anyways, they are already incredibly powerful.

Btw I made a few tests and Empire war wagons and Black Lions regiment of renown (war wagons with hell blaster volley guns) also have some targetting problem but they perform a little bit better with "prefer central target"
wh2_dlc13_emp_rifle_war_wagons_bullet wh2_dlc13_emp_helblaster_volley_gun_bullet_war_wagon_upgraded

Yea, manual targeting and not using fire while move avoids the issue. But its kind of annoying to do. Hopefully it gets fixed.

@Jolc3r wow really? So there is a workaround "You can avoid this by stopping to shoot, which will revert back to normal targeting rules"
Great to hear I will try to upvote when I remember my CA account details xD
good investigation

I made a bug report on their bug tacking site so if you care to see it fixed you can try upvoting it. Who knows if they really look at that stuff though.

https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/bugs/6994?page=1

Yup, that issue shows up with any unit that can move while firing. You can see it happen to waystalkers, glade guard, gutter runners, horse archers, etc.

If you move a unit with autofire with move and shoot, all entities in the unit will target the nearest entity, which tends to be one guy at the edge of a formation. You can avoid this by stopping to shoot, which will revert back to normal targeting rules (spreading out shots instead of targeting nearest entity), or disabling autofire while moving.

It was probably either introduced when they added Chorfs and change the rules for vehicles and their auto targeting turret rules or for chariots when the game release, not sure.

Very annoying, but can't be fixed by modding.

Yeah guys the base game has sometimes crappy targetting logic such mods can only fix a few things here and there but not all
Thx for mod anyways

Nope, tried. That is an engine/hardcoded issue in the guts of the game. It has to do with move while firing.

Ask CA

Does this mod fix the problem with marauders on horse throwing all spears/axes at one unit?

Only vanilla values. This does not change any other unit mods. Vanilla dragon breath already target center mass.

Would this correct mods that add dragon breaths which completely miss their target?

Either that mod will overwrite my changes or the other way around.

yup

It shouldnt cause any crashes thought, they just will have their default targeting behavior right?

specialized. The entries are purely on a table, not script. Compatibility needs to be added for each unit from other mods.

Is this a generic fix or specialized to the specific units, (Ie: would this change the behavior of mods that add other artillery units?)

It already targets center mass. You must have another mod that messes with it.

I'll check

Does this work for the Fireball spell as well? Hate how that spell tends to be aimed at outlying targets, instead of center mass.

Thx for replying

Doesnt need update, should still work. Ignore the warning

Nah