@Choyi Thank you. I'll try to figure it out. I want to work on separating the traits.

@Bombur there is sadly no such simple table, traits are all assigned on an individual basis via the character_item_set_table which would need to be crossreferenced with both the char_skill_effect_table as well as the char_skill_node_table, and it has no overall distinction between hero or lord so its not a thing easily adjusted.

@Choyi
Dividing up the trait between hero and lords. Please tell me the name of the table?

@HotPizza87 those traits already have had battle effects added to them in this mod for a very long time, for example the Tzeentch trait has a Barrier hit points bonus.

I suggest one area to look at is the Warriors of Chaos traits which give reduction in souls cost for devotion and corruption. These traits on their own are quite weak because they don't do anything on the battlefield.

@Hoo the fool it is a placeholder until 6.3 goes live and I can alter traits effects without worrying about compatibility, the trait is supposed to not have Melee Defence displayed and this will be fixed in future update.
But thanks for pointing out anything that looks wrong since with bigger mods it is easy to miss things, I appreciate it!

@HotPizza87 there is still a lot of tweaks and rebalance to be made with the latest changes, but CA is going in the right direction now so I'm happy whenever I can remove entries that used to need big changes in the past.

What are your plans for 6.3? There's definitely a feeling like the new vanilla traits are enough now.

Thanks for developing this great mod! By the way, I found a buggy thing; Cunning general trait seems increasing +0 Melee defense, which is wrong.

@Priss sounds like an old vanilla issue so you would need to report to CA forums as I can't fix those.

Where to report bugs? Some ogre camp tyrants have missing traits saying "dy_background_skill"

@Demonmercer correct, there was no real changes to traits in the 6.2 patch

I assume this mod works with 6.2 right?

The Herald of Nurgle Cunning Trait isn't working. It's working with the Cultist of Nurgle though. If I remember correctly, there's something bugged with hero traits and CA never fixed it. Something to do that it has to say "Lords Army" for it to actually work? I remember Legend of Total War talking about it on one of his streams.

such a great mod, thanks for the work!

Another must have mod for my campaigns. Thanks.

@HotPizza87 its a bit tricky since dividing up the trait between hero and lords would be something that could cause both compatability issues as well as prevent the mod from being turn off mid campaign.
I'd love to fix it up and hoping that CA gets around to fixing it like they did some other traits so its easier to work with.
Meanwhile this mod gives it other benefits that works regardless if its on a lord or hero.

The issue with vanilla Strategist is that it doesn't work on improving the movement of an army when the trait is held by a hero. So that trait specifically needs dividing into two traits. One that lords can get, and the other that only heroes can get where it has a scope like own army when embedded

There have even been people who have said the movement range on Strategist doesn't even work on lords. Something should be done about that.

基础特性调整，对原版招募领主和事务官时大量没用的初始特性进行调整，并且数值也在合理的范围内，原版很强的特性也依旧很强。

Ok, thanks. It would have been nice to use this alongside SFO, for more variety.

Brusix1984 Do you need it to? SFO makes a lot of interesting changes to traits, many of their names not in the vanilla game at all.

Does this work well with SFO?

@thegreywaren make sure it is updated to latest version, Steam can be bad with auto update sometimes so can try unsub then resub to force a update download.
Otherwise I don't know what the cause for your crash could be, but the latest version of this mod is fully functioning for patch 5.1.

still crashes, even when alone

Can confirm it is working now, much appreciated for the quick update!

Make sure you have the latest mod update as the faulty entries where removed and the crash is now fixed.

@Tesrali - All mods involving traits are getting crashes due to some changes to the ChaD Demonsmith Sorcerer :(

Getting crash with Chaos Dwarf trait list.

This mod crashes the game, please update it

i have same issue as @chebupelka

@chebupelka no idea what could cause that, so it's very likely caused by a mod conflict

Causes a crash for me when AIs engage in battle with each other at the end of a turn. Disabling the mod fixes the problem.
The last lines in the log:

[out] <233.8s> nil
[traits] <233.8s> * force_add_trait() is adding trait [wh2_main_trait_attacking_victory] to character [character_cqi:2758], showing message: true, points: 1
[traits] <233.8s> * force_add_trait() is adding trait [wh2_main_trait_fighter] to character [character_cqi:2758], showing message: true, points: 1

Does this "fix" the Nurgle traits that spawn on heroes? I wanted to cut down on any extra mods I don't need.

@Rockstar sadly I forgot to save a backup file before the update, sorry.

But as a small comfort, at least the mod should be safe to remove during ongoing campaign if it is causing issues for older version saves.

any hope of a 4.2 version somewhere for people who are finishing up a campaign?

thanks for your great work :3

@Grichka Bogdanoff thank you for reporting, it will be fixed next mod update

Skaven trait called Sneaky gives +25 ambush chance and +8 anti-infantry bonus which should apply only to lord, but it apply to entire army instead.

@Zinglemeister 9000 don't think this mod would be cause, I ran a MP campaign just now and all was fine, make sure all players force subscribe to mods to ensure steam updates them(steam auot update is real bad and can take days to update stuff on its own).

causing desync in multiplayer atm

@Krakenous todays update was for adjustments to cst traits

What was updated?

thx bro i go try)

@Dairak Logrus should work fine with any tech tree mods since they operate on different db tables then traits do.

work with tech tree mod ?

@TheGrandSirPiggy it will be looked at in the next balance pass update, thanks for the feedback.

Kislev's strongholder is way to strong, imo. Since it can be aquired on heroes as well and since patriarchs are so plentiful, since the church building is amazing, you end up with 1 turn construction very soon. I would suggest some more "when defending" buffs and taking away the construction time buff

great work :3

Disregard, suddenly working again! Steam likely didn't update it properly even though it stated it had. 😅

No luck. I removed it and re-subscribed, has the green tick for up to date, bit crashes the game due to a database error. Booted up with only this mod enabled and same error.