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miz  [开发者] 10 月 11 日 上午 5:39
NOELLE & BERDLY BRAINSTORMING DISCUSSION
so like hypothetically,

theoretically

If Noelle and Berdly were in DST, how would they work?

im talking upsides, downsides, abilities, items, anything at all that comes to mind.

noelle's abilities are fairly easy since she was a playable character in chapter 2. You got heal prayer, sleep mist, ice shock................................................... snowgrave

but i got nothing for berdly. wind/tornado attacks, i guess? spear projectiles?




Also a disclaimer: I will not be looking at this discussion much. I honestly don't even want to think about new deltarune characters for at least a month, lol. Buuuut since this mod is on the front page rn, I might as well post this early to get more eyes on it (and get more input as a result).

Also please don't take this as 100% confirmation that I'm gonna release these characters; I've got a ton of work left to do on this mod that I JUST released, and other mods already lined up waiting to get finished. And, if these characters do eventually become a thing, please don't expect it any time soon.
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lozify 10 月 11 日 上午 8:31 
i got an idea for berdly
give him the ability to not be able to do puzzles cause well.. he is not that smart.
最后由 lozify 编辑于; 10 月 11 日 上午 8:32
Snowgrave :steamhappy::steamhappy::steamhappy:
Gray 10 月 11 日 上午 9:40 
Berdly would absolutely have the ability to gloat to increase their sanity (much to the dismay of everyone else).
Yawakze 10 月 11 日 下午 2:26 
maybe make snowgrave the soul shine ability?
Old Man 10 月 11 日 下午 2:33 
For Berdly I'd imagine that he'd be good at taking out multiple small threats [like the spiders or small tendrils]. As you could probably make his wind and halbird-arrow attacks into spells.

As for Noelle she could definetly have a ice magic mechanic similar to deerclops' freezing, with possibly a "get stronger" secret, by using ice shock on enemies ther are at very low hp, [also snowgrave is a must if you're going to add secrets to noelle.]
最后由 Old Man 编辑于; 10 月 11 日 下午 2:34
Cooltigher66 10 月 11 日 下午 2:37 
I could see Berdly using his test papers as a TP move, If you do decide to give berdly TP
Old Man 10 月 11 日 下午 2:43 
I also suppose that Noelle would technically be the "every-women" of the group in a sense. . . being able to both fight and heal. I suppose one downside you could do for her is making her lose sanity quicker, both through combat and other instances.

I also imagine that if you were to add a "weird route" secret that snowgrave would be able to be unlocked, probably at low sanity with Kris's soul shine ability, or something along the lines of that idea.
miz  [开发者] 10 月 11 日 下午 2:54 
ok i lied im looking at this discussion

引用自 Cooltigher66
I could see Berdly using his test papers as a TP move, If you do decide to give berdly TP
they will both have TP, yes. they'll also both be able to defend. i'd want them to have 2-3 non defend abilities, but they don't need to be tied to kris's soulshine at all bc ill probably be publishing them as a separate mod (though, snowgrave probably needs to involve a kris player in some way...)


引用自 Old Man
I also suppose that Noelle would technically be the "every-women" of the group in a sense. . . being able to both fight and heal. I suppose one downside you could do for her is making her lose sanity quicker, both through combat and other instances.
im thinking about a 'lose sanity quicker perk' and wondering if it conflicts with her "likes scary things" behavior.
now, being in the constant definitely isnt the same thing as watching scary movies with dess, but if noelle's belief in Dark Worlds continues even in the Constant, maybe she thinks she's just in a creepy survival videogame? lol
最后由 miz 编辑于; 10 月 11 日 下午 2:54
Old Man 10 月 11 日 下午 3:01 
[also you should probably make Noelle very frail to balance out her potential]

As for Berdly i could see him being a "speedy" type character, able to get in-and-out quickly, but not being good with combat compared to susie or noelle [but being able to deal with multiple enemies at once with aoe tornado-attacks.]
Old Man 10 月 11 日 下午 3:03 
引用自 miz
maybe she thinks she's just in a creepy survival videogame? lol


tbh that way of thinking is pretty funny lmao, thinking this is a dream like how does does in deltarune
最后由 Old Man 编辑于; 10 月 11 日 下午 3:06
Old Man 10 月 11 日 下午 3:04 
also it'd be pretty funny if noelle regained sanity when standing near/next to Susie lmao.
Tsuchinoko 10 月 11 日 下午 4:06 
I can definitely see Noelle coming into the constant with her Snow Ring as the weapon + act system. Along with that, I can see Noelle as a sort of jack-of-all-trades, with Iceshock and Heal Prayer for damage and healing, and the soul shine ability could definitely be Snowgrave, or even something completely original (perhaps something similar to they blue gem deer used by Klaus, strong AOE ice damage attack). For other perks, I can imagine for Noelle only, Susie gives off a small positive sanity aura?
ChadBroski01 10 月 11 日 下午 9:36 
As a Gamer Extraordinaire™, I have some suggestions for Berdly
please keep in mind i am very bad at the game and have only played a little bit but i did read the wiki

I think that Berdly's spells should be a dash where he swings his halberd multiple times, and a circle spin with his halberd. This would probably take 60% and 40% TP respectively. (Along with a "defend" spell like the characters already have)

I'm not having any ideas for Berdly's intelligence without just turning him into Winona 2, but I think it should do something as an upside
Maybe since he's yknow "solving puzzles" crafting, his Sanity would go up and he would say something? (Maybe Susie would be annoyed by this and have some lines to respond to him)
Maybe he could do some tinkering with gears? I dunno
One thing he should DEFINITELY be able to do is to use 50 Gold to make a giant golden statue of himself that does nothing. This is a great and necessary addition.
Yuki 10 月 11 日 下午 9:51 
引用自 Old Man
I also suppose that Noelle would technically be the "every-women" of the group in a sense. . . being able to both fight and heal. I suppose one downside you could do for her is making her lose sanity quicker, both through combat and other instances.
引用自 miz
im thinking about a 'lose sanity quicker perk' and wondering if it conflicts with her "likes scary things" behavior.
now, being in the constant definitely isnt the same thing as watching scary movies with dess, but if noelle's belief in Dark Worlds continues even in the Constant, maybe she thinks she's just in a creepy survival videogame? lol

You could make her sanity multiplier vary-
Less sanity loss at higher levels, More sanity lost on lower levels
最后由 Yuki 编辑于; 10 月 11 日 下午 9:51
Greybow 10 月 12 日 上午 12:17 
Okay, hear me out on how her Snowgrave (which would obviously be her empowered move) work. First of all, she's a super strong base character. But how her special move works, is it's an instant kill, single target, any enemy. BUT. She has to be at 0 sanity and 55 health or lower to use it at all. If you have Kris, they need to cast Soul Shine twice on her in order for her to unlock it. Twice in a row, I mean. And if Kris isn't there, and she's using the headband, she needs to use 5 of them. That's just my idea.
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