Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Princes of Darkness
ikko 2022 年 9 月 20 日 上午 5:22
Best faction to start as a new player?
I'm not new to CK3 but I'm new to the mod and to the lore of this game. I saw that Ventrue start was marked as easy but I tend to like playing smaller factions and Ventrue seems like it starts off very large with a lot of stuff to manage right at the beginning.

I was thinking starting off as the dude in Rome, Camilla I think is his name? Someone let me know if this is good or recommend a small starting faction good to ease new players into the atmosphere of this mod.
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I haz grapes 2022 年 9 月 20 日 上午 7:19 
Excellent pick. I would recommend Camilla as tutorial playthrough for all new players. I don't know why he is not "recommended". Maybe they don't want to spoil you, because it's indeed a very easy start. But now that the mod became very complex, it's good to start somewhere where both internal and external threats come at you gradually and you have time to stretch your legs and try things. I actually played him after Royal Court update again to try new features quickly and safely. And again, he did not dissapoint.

I would not refer to clans as "factions", though. You share same roots of origin and that's it. Actually, moreso than in mortal feaudal Europe, biggest threats often come from within the "family". Exceptions exist. But "These people are not your friends. We don't have friends".

By the way, Camilla is Ventrue too. So, watch out what you eat.
Das Boot 2022 年 9 月 20 日 下午 2:32 
Here are good tutorial choices for each splat:
  • Vampires: Mithras, Hardestat, Augustus Giovanni
  • Revenent: Crassus
  • Ghoul: Prias
  • Demons: Mammon
  • Mummies: Cabriri
  • Inquisitors: Knights of Acre

    However, like in vanilla Crusader Kings, the best way to learn is by expereince. Even if you fail your first few games, you'll discover new mechanics and strategies and learn how to turn even rulers in unadventurous positions into great leaders.
最后由 Das Boot 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 20 日 下午 2:33
I haz grapes 2022 年 9 月 21 日 上午 2:41 
I would assume that either Mithras or Hardestadt or both are mysterious Ventrue OP has tried and got a bit overwhelmed with. Every recommended start is neat, interesting and deserves at least a brief playthrough to complete their objectives or whatever else we define as "winning the game". But these two a bit too tied with internal issues that are more severe than in vanilla. Also, starting large kinda dulls experience of early game growth and accomplishment, so I would argue that they are not best candidates to be introduced to the mod with.

Augustus is nice. I would consider him and Helena as second best picks. Augustus offers much more gentle and slow introduction to critical vassal management. And Helena is simply magnificent. All she needs is someone to win her wars for her and she will never have a shortage of those willing. Her scheme secrecy malus serves as important lesson in humility and working against your character's flaws.

Well, not the best place to discuss it, but that last of her problems is criminally misplaced. Of course there is a number of ways to overcome that little problem of hers. But she starts as long con with thousands years of experience. She should not feel as clumsy failure facing huge risks of being caught whenever she liberates a candy from a child. I would advocate for her house bonus modifier to be split between attraction and scheme secrecy bonus. I would assume part of the whole attraction deal is that people overlook or forgive suspicious behaviour.
tru- 2022 年 11 月 18 日 上午 8:05 
引用自 Das Boot
Here are good tutorial choices for each splat:
  • Vampires: Mithras, Hardestat, Augustus Giovanni
  • Revenent: Crassus
  • Ghoul: Prias
  • Demons: Mammon
  • Mummies: Cabriri
  • Inquisitors: Knights of Acre



    how do you start as a demon? I could not find a starting tab or a mammon himself anywhere
最后由 tru- 编辑于; 2022 年 11 月 18 日 上午 8:06
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