@enginegun No worries, feel free to join the server if you wanna discuss some more with Cam and I. You seem to have a solid grasp of the history surrounding this.

Sorry for being rude, just really trying to understand the whole lore thing and I get hyper fixated, forget there's people behind the screen.

Doesn't *fix*

It looks like a Muslim's wet dream. They get to larp as "Rome" while actively destroying any christian minorities and persecuting Latin language in favor of Arabic. The City of Rome historically only sustained it's population due to constant migration from rural areas. It cannot be overstated how bad the situation was for the Western Empire. Britannia was a blackhole that drained resources to prevent raids, Spain was one of the only prosperous provinces. The western empire overall was less populated and less prosperous. Simply having a single dynasty constantly ruling fixes anything. They'd collapse sooner rather then later without anatolia. Also Christianity was already fairly widespread in the Empire, Alexandria would still become christian.

@red mage While Christianity is mostly a minority religion, it still preceded Islam in a very similar way - and Islam mirrors Manichaeism in that way of having a prophet who claims succession from Jesus. Christianity was more widespread in the Middle East especially before they would become assimilated by the Manichaeans and Muslims, whereas most of Islam's spread in Europe and the west was precipitated through conquest - with probably the biggest exception being the widespread conversion of central and southern Italy during the 14th century, when the Lireman Emperor was proclaimed Caliph. In this sense, the Romans adopted Islam partially because of its perceived glory - the conquests of the caliphates had much come at their expense and they wanted the glory back.

@enginegun At least read the Book of Why and Timeline before asking some of these. A number of your questions are directly or indirectly answered there.

Rome staying pagan is stupid, Christianity spread fast because the women would convert the men. Harshly suppressing Christians would just lead to the Sassanids hosting the first ecumenical council and hosting their head of faith like they did with the Nestorians. Vandals becoming muslim is stupid, IRL they were known for attempting the conversion of Africa to Arianism. No Visigothic kingdom, no sack of Rome. The western empire was much less wealthy and developed then the east, as that was where all the money came from.

It feels strange that islam got so big without the spread of Christianity that preceded it.

@Hesperidian The issue should be fixed now!

hello niche community

Bug:
Ashabi Local Organizations / Holy Orders do not actually establish after you hit the okay button on them. You lose no mana, but it doesn't work regardless.

The mission tree for each nations are all the same. You haven't updated the missions at all.

@Oreton Honestly if I knew how development would've panned out chronologically and how long it'd take to get back to it, I probably wouldn't have so aggressively removed it. It was mostly to make way for all the changes Leviathan made to how indigenous nations work and prepare for a significant lore rewrite iirc.

@Eddie_the_rawke Yes, that's the primary change along with a few other things.

Why remove the previous changes done in North America? It's way more fun than vanilla, now it's just lame

so the main gist of the mod is that Christianity isn't that widespread?

If you have any ideas of your own you'd like to share, feel free to hit us up on the discord!

So many religions and unique ideas for nations. I love it!

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it.

Good mod!