Never ask Jensech what he was doing between 1939 to 1945

the CA curse. tradition at this point

@sinh - I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: The Amethyst units? Yeah those aren't actually new units. I couldn't get the Imperial Gunnery School system to accept "new" units while replacing the vanilla units so as a workaround I basically just swapped what models and weapons the vanilla units use. I have no idea why the Amethyst units crash games, nobody seems to know, and it's so inconsistent that the best I can say is the mod just won't work for some people even if they're doing everything right.

Ok, slight correction. Tried amethyst battle wizard and that crashed as well. Might be Amethyst units that cause it and I'm trying to think what might be the reason but the only thing I can imagine is me not actually having baseline versions of those units unlocked. Maybe once normal versions become available, it'll cease crashing.

So I just recruited an amethyst light tank and the game crashed. Not sure if it's on my end or light tanks must be avoided but wanted to give a headsup anyways. Great mod overall. No issues until now

it does seem to be doubling the upkeep for ALL units actually.

Totally reasonable to increase amethyst unit upkeep. I made the mistake of inserting the mod into a run already in progress (in Coop with a friend), so was really just wondering if it was intentional, or just me breaking the mod by being stupid. Thanks for the reply!

@The Senate - It shouldn't be doubling the upkeep of ALL units, but I did adjust the upkeep of the Amethyst units to be more in line with how OP they are. In my testing and casual play it all looked to be working correctly last I looked at it.
@every one else - Apologies for falling off the face of the earth for a bit, burnout got me. Per the devs of TWM, their next update will include their own take on the Gunnery School so I'll be doing whatever is needed to keep this working until their release, but probably not fixing much and definitely not adding anything. Once I know what their vision of the Gunnery School is I'll either discontinue this mod entirely or maybe piggyback off their work to add my own Amethyst units in to their version or something.

Is this mod meant to double the upkeep of all units? It feels unnecessarily harsh. Or is that just a fun side-effect of way that the gunnery school stuff is extremely cursed?

Please update, crashes when recruiting the units.

there seem to be a problem that when you have the rocket upgrade from gunnery school, all your rocket units cant firing rockets(including heavy attack helicopter)

did the updates, still crashes at recruitment

@rambythezombie does that count for the recruitment bug? the units itself work in ai battle,it just crashen at the recruitment

potential solution for crashes, make sure you have the latest versions of visual C++ 2010, both x86 and by x64, and visual C++ 2013, both versions and the latest versions.

There is problem for me, game crash when i try to recruit amethyst units like tanks or infrantry

ohhh

There seems to be a bug with the 150mm Rocket Launcher not firing even with all Gunnery School upgrades.

@Stash
Yes. The units are very strong so they have a high upkeep to compensate a little.

Is Upkeep meant to be high?

Yeah im also crashing as soon as i recruit an amethyst unit. only mods are this, the base modern warfare mod, and unlimited character traits

That said, I have made some progress. I know what it isn't. I have found that the game is properly generating the unit card information and the crash is happening when the model is added to the army. I have noticed that there are some things that are not actually included in the pack file, that are being called on like they are in the pack file, that might be part of the problem but I haven't gotten that far yet.

@sir Markus von Killington I have not solved the issue, I am actually still trying to figure out why it crashes. Without much luck. The mod actually looks well put together and I can't find the source of why I crash

@rambythezombie Did you ever solve your issue? I am having the same exact issue.

the secondary weapons for the Amethyst Sky Destroyer don't work, also there's some 'floating' guns happening under it.
Nice 'primary' weapon tho. Thumbs up

Ok I got it! Thanks again for the help with this. I didn't see in the workshop ui i had to make the automobile manufacture thingy. TIME TO SPEND ALL MY SCHEMATICS YIPPEE

Alright thank you author for the input on the matter. I will continue on my elspeth campiagn and let you know what happens when I get the arty building made!

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails?id=3504270934 i put my mods in this so you can see, but deaktivating the other elsbeth mod didnt help. in test battles against ai the new units work. i can unlock them in campain but the moment i press recruit it crashes. like the games cant load it in the army

@HAL 9000
I would like to offer again the chance to talk via discord, where I can offer you the crash files that get generated on attempting to recruit units. You can reach me at RambytheZombie as my username.

@Chicken Jookey
TW Millennium should change the actual building requirement to the second tier of artillery recruitment building. You'll need to unlock the Trench Warfare tech node to do that. If your game isn't showing that change then it's probably a weird display bug. If your game does actually want you to build the vanilla building and won't properly unlock with the new one then that's a whole other bug to report.

@Seeker
I'm sorry, I don't know what's causing that for you or rambythezombie. Can you give me any other information that might help me hunt down the issue?

Hello was wondering if I'm dumb or missing something. How do I upgrade the engineers workshop if I can't construct the building? Playing with the millennium mod obvisiously and it doesn't give the option to construct in any of the cities. Any advice or info would be awesome!

the units work in battle vs Ai

Hi it crashes when i recruit the new amethyst units

I have gone through, and did a complete verification of all CA files on my computer, and forced steam to redownload the applicable mods. I will check back in again after the next windows update and see if that fixed the issue. Until then, this mod is still dope and I love the changes to the gunnery school to make it useful. Well done and I look forward to testing this further in the future. Oh, minor information dump to follow.

Windows 10 latest update, Visual C++ latest drivers, Total Warhammer III latest update as of 6/15/2025 latest version of steam.

@rambythezombie
I've tested it with those mods enabled and didn't have any issues, I don't know what's causing your crash.

I should also point out that I have been able to get a look at the crash file, but it is particularly unhelpful. It is a Visual C++ crash of unknown origin and type.

I am still working on it. I have been able to replicate the bug with this mod list:
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TW Millennium Submod: Morr Brigades Revived
TW Millennium: Modern Warfare
TW Millennium: Modern Warfare - Unofficial Elspeth Patch (Submod)
TW Millennium: Modern Warfare More Tanks Submod
TW Millennium: Modern Warfare Faster Research Submod
ADLER's Easy Start
Console Commands (Modding Tool), the mod works 100000% please just use it and enable the script break warning

Consequently, I don't think it is an incompatibility.

Did you eventually find a fix for this issue :O?

That was my thought, I am gonna do some more testing and when I find out what's going on I will post back so you at least have a heads up of what out there is impacting your mod in such a weird way, and so it can listed as having an incompatibility. If that helps out, I don't wanna flood the discussion thread with useless stuff

@rambythezombie
This one should probably be above TW:M, but with so many other mods it seems pretty likely there's some kind of conflict. God only knows what that conflict could be given the number of mods, but a good place to start would be any mods you have that might also be trying to change the vanilla Amethyst units.

I can say that it is natively below TW:M in the load order, distantly so at position 74 compared to 22. But shifting its position to close behind or close ahead doesn't change the crash profile, which is that the game accepts the order to recruit, but as the panel drops the game freezes in place.

I have an extensive modlist, uhhh, you can reach me here on Steam, or by my username Rambythezombie on discord. ^^ I would be happy to help further if I am able.

@rambythezombie
Thanks for reporting that, can you give me a list of any other mods you're using and tell me if you have this one above or below TW: Millennium in your load order?

I love this mod, but have run into an issue with attempting to recruit any amethyst unit causes the game to enter an infinite loop and crash. Not sure where to even begin troubleshooting and was wondering if anyone else having this problem has any suggestions.

Thx for the great mod

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