Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

More Accurate Counts & Dukes [Updated]
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Conifer  [作者] 1 小时以前 
@Charlemagne That mod is not yet up to date. I tried to make my own version but wasn't able to.
Charlemagne 4 小时以前 
Please make it compatible with even smaller world map
Conifer  [作者] 10 月 29 日 下午 12:33 
@Silent Heaven Added Brandenburg. The decision should show up if you hold the Altmark, Neumark, or Nordmark as a Central Germanic-cultured character.
Silent Heaven 10 月 28 日 下午 2:32 
Yes that's what I want. Appreciate getting back about this. And yes I would like a Muscovy tag at some point when you're ready to add them in Russia
Conifer  [作者] 10 月 28 日 下午 2:31 
@Silent Heaven Brandenburg is already in the game in the form of the Nordmark, between the Altmark and the Neumark. It has a dynamic name where it's called luticia if held by a slavic culture, but it's the same title.
I could perhaps make a decision where the three marks can be merged into one Brandenburg proper though, if that's what you meant.

As for Muscovy, it'll have to wait, possibly a little while, until I decide to touch Russia.
Silent Heaven 10 月 28 日 下午 2:17 
Can you add Brandenburg and Muscovy as formables?
Conifer  [作者] 10 月 25 日 上午 4:40 
@Ziege There isn't, but I did have my own version for personal use. I'll upload it once AUH is released since it's slightly outdated already and I don't want to do double the work.
If it's performance you're after, I suggest using the population control mod since it has practically the same effect.
Ziege 10 月 23 日 下午 2:19 
is there a compatibility patch with any mod that makes the map smaller?e
tabel'noe 10 月 3 日 上午 10:21 
@Conifer This is all i could wish for! You can use the emblems from the document I sent however you like, i just really like your mod and want to help. fil free to contact me for your futher expansions, if they follow, i would love to make some more coa's, ill sent you friend request wia steam so it would be easier. I also wrote a modest post on r/CKHeraldry, mentioning your mod in it. https://www.reddit.com/r/CKHeraldry/comments/1nwdpao/macd_%D1%81oat_of_arms_enhancement_passion_project/

Hope youll find strenght to sucseed with your uni studies (i left from 3rd year xdd) Take your time buddy :3
i will be honored to be credeted, thank you very much!
Conifer  [作者] 10 月 3 日 上午 8:10 
@tabel'noe Thank you very much for your hard work. I've looked through a couple of them so far and they're genuinely amazing. I can't imagine the amount of work put in.

I'll try finding some free time and go through them all and implement them, if you're okay with that. I don't know when I'll update the public version since I'm kind of bogged down with university right now, but I'll make sure to credit you when I do.
tabel'noe 10 月 2 日 下午 1:54 
@Conifer Ok, think I've noted everything I could improve (from my point of view ofc), you can check the codes out: https://github.com/0sandro/CK3-CoA-s/blob/Codes-of-Arms/macd.txt
tabel'noe 10 月 1 日 下午 3:40 
All of them would be full vanilla, no custom emblems, just plain coa codes
tabel'noe 10 月 1 日 下午 3:37 
So my first goal is to improve this aspect. Second goal is to edit some other designs that i think i can improve, like united duchy of Jülich-Cleves-Berg as example. I would do the pac, you would be the judge and pick stuff that you think is an improvement to existing designs and then implement it. Deal? :)
And let me know where do you whant to get depiction of my stuff. Discord/GitHub maybe?
tabel'noe 10 月 1 日 下午 3:37 
@Conifer. I can make a whole pac for your project, i highly interested in it. When i have free time (prob tomorrow).
As for coats that bother me, i mean 90% feels really good to me, but some of them do not fit the banner (there are 4 displayable surfaces in ck3. House shield , dynasty shield, title shield info and map banner, im talking about map banner, the one you always see by moving on the map). Almost all vanilla coa's title banners designed to fit this shield specifically. Examples: England, England with claim on France (lilies and liones quartered), United Lion and Castile via decision, Naples and so on.
Conifer  [作者] 10 月 1 日 下午 12:04 
@tabel'noe Thank you
I try to link the new duchies' coat of arms to that of already existing counties' whenever possible. This improves compatibility with mods that change coat of arms, like Patrum Scuta. Though a fitting coat of arms is not always available and I have to then make my own.
I've looked over your work and it's pretty impressive.
Are there any specific coat of arms that bother you or you think could use improvement?
tabel'noe 9 月 28 日 下午 12:44 
@Conifer Great job, buddy, I've been looking for a mod like this for a long time but nothing suited me, and finally I found gold. As for new coat of arms for new titles you made, i think some of them look nice, but I think I can help you improve some of them. I've been creating custom emblems for vanilla for a while now, here are my posts on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/0_sandro/submitted/
if you are interested just let me now!
Alsiel 9 月 16 日 上午 3:52 
@Conifer Glad to hear it, I wish you great success! Thanks again for your work!
Conifer  [作者] 9 月 15 日 上午 11:51 
@Alsiel Thank you for the compliment.
I would love to redraw plenty of other regions' counties as I did for the Low Countries. I don't promise that this will happen soon however, or that this will be the standard going forward. The original scope of the mod didn't exactly include redrawing province borders, and me deciding to do so for the Low Countries (quite recently actually) was pretty spur-of-the-moment, partly fueled by me being from there.

The most likely course of action from here on will be me alternating between working on new regions to the standard of current France and Germany, and redrawing the province borders of France and Germany to the standard of the Low Countries.
Alsiel 9 月 15 日 上午 9:31 
The mod is a real masterpiece, thank you very much for your work, I will be looking forward to the next updates. I would like to know if it is possible to work out in more detail the counties of Germany (for example, the lands of all Lorraine and Burgundy), England and Iberia?
kafkuhesk 9 月 4 日 下午 5:51 
saw on /vst/, thanks a bunch, cured my autistic wrath
Conifer  [作者] 8 月 14 日 上午 2:39 
@HeirandtheSpare Appreciate it
HeirandtheSpare 8 月 13 日 下午 6:57 
@Conifer Agreed! They would be wonderful together. Even if you don't get around to it, thanks for answering me. I applaud your attempts to make the game more historically accurate. We need more of that in the world.
Conifer  [作者] 8 月 13 日 上午 11:48 
@HeirandtheSpare I might at some point, but yeah, it would be a lot of work, basically from the ground up. Every new county added by that mod means manually writing a line of code switching that county to the appropriate duchy; judging by the density that's about 3-5x the work it takes in vanilla.

Though I do think both mods would complement each other greatly, hence why I'd like to eventually get around to it.
HeirandtheSpare 8 月 13 日 上午 10:54 
@Conifer All of them! What about making a patch for compatibility for More Provinces Expanded? Or would that be just way too much work?
Conifer  [作者] 8 月 13 日 上午 12:21 
@HeirandtheSpare Very true, I've especially noticed this in the Low Countries, but sadly, adding new counties would greatly increase incompatibility with other mods, thus I've decided against it.

I might however reconsider it in the future, and add 1 or 2 new counties here and there.
For curiosity's sake, where do you think counties are particularly lacking?
HeirandtheSpare 8 月 12 日 上午 11:54 
This would be perfect if it would also add new counties. There just aren't enough to feel accurate in the vanilla game.
Dampie007 6 月 30 日 上午 7:49 
Hi bro, i have some feedback, i have been researching Europe before and in the year 1066 and came to this conclusion: https://www.deviantart.com/dmnptrs/art/Europe-at-1066-historically-accurate-1206545842 I also have different images which shows the counties and duchies.
两只水饺跳过去 6 月 14 日 上午 5:22 
Save games compatible?
Dampie007 5 月 29 日 上午 3:54 
I just discovered that the mod ''imperial immediacy'' is not compatible, for some reason it says many of the bishoprics are not really ranks so you can't give them this grant in their contract.
MetaMasterpiece 5 月 10 日 上午 10:09 
Compatible with MPE and RICE?
Dampie007 5 月 9 日 上午 3:41 
Noice
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 8 日 下午 1:29 
@Damianuus Yeah, hadn't gotten around to it yet.
Made a quick hotfix, now the Kingdom of Bohemia requires you to hold a hook on the Emperor.
Dampie007 5 月 8 日 下午 12:36 
The duke of Bohemia can still create the kingdom of Bohemia..
Dampie007 5 月 7 日 下午 12:10 
It shows Trier since 772-1803. However that is weird since he was definetely part of this duchy since it's formation. Either the dates are incorrect or it was a very complex thing where they could be part of a duchy and have imperial immediacy at the same time.
Dampie007 5 月 7 日 下午 12:04 
This wikipedia page shows the dates when prince bishropics received and held imperial immediacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-bishop .
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 7 日 上午 1:37 
@Alma_Negra It's currently not compatible -- the de jure kingdoms would be completely messed up -- but I'll be making a compatch once I get the time.
Alma_Negra 5 月 7 日 上午 12:31 
Any way this is compatible with Kingdoms of the HRE mod?
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3380893224
Dampie007 5 月 6 日 上午 11:52 
I think both decisions is good, especially if i can combine you're mod with the imperial immediacy mod, you should check that one out, it could be very fitting with you're mod. This might be off topic but i used to play with a mod called historical empires which removes like inhistorical empires like Francia, Scandinavia, Spain, Brittania etc, but that mod has been taken down for some reason, there is still an earlier version alike mod but i forgot the name. However since that one probably won't mix with this one since it creates titles, there is an alternative option which is to simply put restrictions on an empire title creation, i searched for alternative mods but they are all outdated. It is somehow slightly connected with this topic except than you will keep kingdoms accurate. Is that something you would want to make too?
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 5 日 下午 3:37 
@Epikindynos Gkikas Thank you for the kind words. I certainly intend to overhaul other areas as well but can't make any promises for specific regions.

I've been made aware of the mod quite recently. I'll think about making a compatch whenever I get the time.
@Damianuus
Right, but it says 'by the time...' so it could've happened anytime before the 15th century. Trier specifically became an electorate in 1189 for example.
Prince-bishops enjoying imperial immediacy I got from here: https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/009832/2012-06-25/
And if I remember my lectures correctly, prince-bishops were initially set up specifically to curtail the power of the secular dukes.
Epikindynos Gkikas 5 月 5 日 下午 2:37 
Firstly, I love the concept of this mod and have been looking for something similar for years. Would you consider expanding its scope to other places in the map where similar inaccuracies may exist, such as the crusader states in 1178 and Sicily in 1066, or Scandinavia?

Also, have you seen the mod "Kingdoms of the HRE"? it would work pretty well together in theory with this mod, but since it changes titles in the HRE it currently creates really weird de jure borders
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 9:27 
No, this is what wikipedia says: Lower Lorraine disintegrated into several smaller territories and only the title of a "Duke of Lothier" remained, held by Brabant. By the time Upper Lorraine came into the possession of René of Anjou (ca 15th century) several territories had already split off, such as the County of Luxembourg, the Electorate of Trier, the County of Bar and the "Three Bishoprics" of Verdun, Metz and Toul. So untill the 15th century these territories were still part of upper Lorraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lorraine . As far as i know, even the prince elector of Cologne was under the duke of lower Lorraine, i assume this from the mod: ''Electors of Holy Roman Empire'' but also images of wikipedia showing lower Lorraine with Cologne around 1000AD.
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 5 日 上午 9:07 
@Damianuus
Was the bishop of Trier not a prince-bishop at this time, and did prince-bishops not enjoy imperial immediacy?
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 6:42 
About the bishop of Trier, i think you misunderstood me, i was saying that you did it correct by making him subject to the duke of upper Lorraine.. Because if i understand correctly you put a restriction on the emperor gives away vassals which he usually does by giving this dude to Upper Lorraine. Trier was actually part of this duchy because originally the duchy was called the duchy of the Moselle by Bruno the great, because the Moselle river both started and ended in the duchy. And lower Lorraine just held the title of Lotharingia. Upper and lower are actually modern historic terms.
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 5:54 
I just checked it in game, interesting.
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 5 日 上午 5:45 
@Damianuus I'll look into increasing the requirements for creating Bohemia while under the HRE

In the pictures, the image labeled as showing Stem Duchies shows the de jure kingdom-tier titles (k_), these don't exist at game start. They are also impossible to create while a vassal of the HRE. These are the 'vanity titles' I referred to earlier. The smaller de jure duchy screen shows duchy-tiered titles (d_), some of these are titled as 'counties' and others as 'duchies', Flanders is for example a county, Upper Lorraine is a duchy. It's on this tier that the 'stem duchies' which are actually held by characters exist. Some of these are titular (so they have no de jure) to represent them being able to fully disintegrate, but I've added various decisions to restore or unite them.
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 5:13 
But historically it was only in the 13th century with emperor Frederick B. that Bohemia became a kingdom. I prefer that one to be a duchy too because firstly they become very powerful as a kingdom, even stronger than the emperor, and second the Bohemian king wants to create holy orders all the time. Which is prefer not. I am quite confused with you're pictures because i see 2 different pictures of duchies in the HRE, does that mean that dukes rule over other dukes?
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 5 日 上午 4:48 
@Damianuus
I doubt the mod you mentioned would be compatible with this one since it adds new kingdoms. If your only intention in having it is to not have kingdoms form within the HRE (ever), then my mod already does that; Bohemia being the exception of course.

As for Trier, you're right, it was an oversight to have them under L. Lotharingia. I'll make them have imperial immediacy.
The devs deciding to have events happen ahead of time isn't even their worst offense. With Franconia they didn't even try to make it somewhat accurate, hence the female prince-bishop of Frankfurt in vanilla...
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 2:41 
I mean the kingdom of Lotharingia was non historic after 1066*
Dampie007 5 月 5 日 上午 2:40 
I added a mod, even less kingdoms for the HRE, which requires vassals permission of the emperor to create a kingdom and i always turn the acceptance chance to very low chance, because i prefer duchies. I just fear that this mod interfere's with that one. Lotharingia for example was also non historic after 1088. I liked that you solved the issue i immidiately had with this, that is that historical counties in ck3 are portrayed as independant like the bishropic of Trier, which the emperor usually gifts to the duke of Upper Lorraine. But you already added it to the domain of upper Lorraine. And you fixed the creation of the duchy of Luxembourg, which happend only later. The game devs decided to already have events that would happen in the future earlier. Another example is the pope being independant of the HRE at 1066, something that happend only later, but it was Henry IV that would really mess things up in regards to the empire's relations with the papacy.
Conifer  [作者] 5 月 4 日 下午 1:33 
@Damianuus
Do you mean the 'de jure' capitals for the kingdom-tier stem duchies? I must admit I didn't put in too much thought for them and almost gave them no de jure capitals at all. The titles themselves are moreso supposed to represent the 'natural' borders of the Stem Duchies rather than any political reality, hence their creation being unavailable for vassals of the HRE. I thought having within the HRE such big kingdom titles that would never disintegrate would be quite unbalanced. I suppose you could say that they're for the most part 'vanity titles'.

Metz was a chosen as a capital for being the capital of the Kingdom of Lotharingia and Aachen for its historical significance, but I understand the objection on both counts and will update it.
The actual duchy-tier lower and upper lotharingia have more accurate capitals I hope, those being Bouillon and Nancy respectively.