Thanks for this! I had a great time trying for a conquest victory as these guys! The Mishkeh ability was SUPER fun to have and really neat!

Does the UA trigger if you lose a luxury and then get it back?

I'd much like to see this civ become compatible with the Civ IV traits mod. Certainly would be a Spiritual--Financial civilization, if you ask me.

Also, are there going to be any other Biblical Civ mods sometime? Amorites? Canaanites? Moabites led by King Eglon?

Why no Civ IV leader trait compatability?

@Leugi

I'm working on a Sea Peoples civilization and your Peselet is perfect for them. Would you mind if I adapted the unit as a sort of post-nomadic pirate version of the Peselet?

Yay!

thank you! works great on ynaemp and is fun to play.

And one more thing-- miswrote scale by era earlier, meant scale by timescale. (Marathon, etc) :)

Oh, and the other issue-- the name doesn't change to Philistia. It could be that I use Civ Names by Policies, but the name change works fine for the Vandals, leading me to believe it's your mod.

Firstly, one of the most fun civs I've played, good job. However, two problems: Your labels for the decisions are greatly misleading and don't scale by era. Namely, the price for Seranim palaces is listed as 1000 flat, and doesn't scale. Same for the label of the Sea People invasion, but at 750.

Second problem is that the Seranim palaces appear in -all- cities, not just the first five, unless it's supposed to be the first five settled post capital (I had six).

Thank-you

@kristopherscotthackney: This is not the last biblical civ I make :P I'm planning some more, but will not give info on any for the time being.

@Wrath: Goliath was more of a general than a leader. He also has a "cameo" when you have Events and Decisions

Of all the mods you've done so well in adding is it the idea that the Hebrews more or less influenced a people who started out of a person (Abraham) and only then thru time became nationally recognized? Because if so it creates a nice twist as to where this nation could be "birthed" from. Explaining timing is always difficult but I'd offer as food for thought that England as we know it (or even close) as you well know wasn't around then either. It, too, took some unfolding of events. Sure the end result is much more affective in respect to physical landmass...but is it? Sure Israel is small but it was a big enough centerpiece to at one point draw Rome's attention. Now to bring the point home, put Abraham on the island of England an maybe things look alot diferent. That's the fun of the game, isn't it? But only the Philistines have a shot to be a world power and not the Hebrews?

How can you offer one & not another especialy when Israel or the "Hebrews" is certainly relative even if you remove the religious nature. But that's just the thing, though it is a theocracy the Hebrews who come to occupy "Israel" IS historically a nation & a people. At LEAST as much as the Philistines.

im surprised that you didnt have goliathe as the leader of the philistines. still an epic mod tho.

Great idea! However, when I get a new luxrury, it works. When I conqure a new city, there is no effect.

Ive been waiting for biblical mods FOREVER!!! Thanks man

En ladannut

One of the songs war music or whatever, all the voices dropped out and seemed like there was only a single looping drum beat. It went on and on, until I turned the volume all the way down. lols

You guys make the best Civ mods I swear

Can you make Qin Shi Huang or Mao Zedong? Please.

Had great fun playing this mod, well done!!!

Muy bueno

I think this is another top class Leugi production. I've played the civ and found it very enjoyable.

Great idea, haven't tried it out though.

Good plan. The only case that doesn't cover is that if the city is razed and another placed in the same spot, you wouldn't get the bonus again, but that's not going to happen in most games, so it wouldn't matter.

@SushiSquid: Damn, never realized the City ID was different from civ... I have to store the Plot instead of the City (I'm using Saveutils, so I don't need a marking building I think), thanks a lot! lso, yeah, in a future update I will adjust by gamespeed too.

@SushiSquid
What mod is it? I'm not sure I've seen a thing like you're reffering to.

Interesting, very interesting. I much like the civ, though it would depend on how much gold and faith.

And the marking building wouldn't necessarily have to do nothing. A "Mishkeh Feasts" building that gives a permanent, but tiny, bonus to any city that the Philistines have ever conquered would be cool. A small bonus would remove the ugly aspect of using a building marker.

And of course there may be another way to do that that I'm not seeing, but I never found one when making my Better City State Capture mod. In that mod, I just keep awarding the bonus each time you recapture, because it's never huge anyway.

@mordcake
I think the reason for this is because that is considered to be a different city once it's held by a different owner. City ID is unique to each civilization, so recording the ID of a city so that you can make sure that city never awards the bonus again won't necessarily work. When the city is taken back and then recaptured, its ID may no longer be the same.

Getting around this would be hard. You may have to make a custom building that does nothing but mark a city, which always remains upon conquest. Stick in in the city upon first awarding a feast and that city will be marked. That method would be ugly, but would work consistently.

@Leugi
In order to always get scaling correct and to make sure you're compatible with other mods, just multiply the values by:

(GameInfo.GameSpeeds[Game.GetGameSpeedType()].GoldPercent / 100)
and:
(GameInfo.GameSpeeds[Game.GetGameSpeedType()].FaithPercent / 100)

That way, no matter what the game speed settings are, you'll be modifying the award commensurate to the value of that yield for that speed.

This is going to go well with a Diverse Resource mod. I'll give it a spin, may even make a YT series out of it if that's okay Leugi.

@Leugi Yep, I conquered one of Songhai's cities, got a feast, next turn the Songhai took it back, and when I captured it again I got a second feast. The city only had one luxury (spices) which I had already acquired before.

not bad - thank you!

@SushiSquid: This is because I'm yet not sure what values to put in other speeds, as I don't play them too often and there's not a clear pattern by Firaxis anyway; as some thing do scale while others do not. So, I'll probably address that in the next update after soem tests.

One issue I've found: it seems you don't account for game speed settings when awarding gold/faith from the trait. Is there a reason for that?

@Ho Lee Schmitt
It looks like this mod supports combining it with some kind of mod that adds events and decisions for you. One of them is indeed the ability to make a stronger Peleset named Goliath.

Why is it rated so poorly? Saw it on Reddit, and wanted to try it out, but I am wondering if it will work. I have G&K.

You should make a Canaan Civ, and one of the units that was unique to this civilization should have been Goliath, perhaps a OP Great General or such.

@mordcake: It can only happen once per city.... Or, at least, that's how it should be unless my code is malfunctioning. Have you got this issue?

You can get a Mishkeh Feast multiple times from one city which can be exploited. I'd make it so that it can only happen once per city, just as it can only happen once per luxury resource. Other than that it's an extremely fun civ to play and very well done.

Cool civ, so what other biblical civs can we be looking forward to? I'd personally like to see the Herodian Dynasty

This is exactly how a civilization is meant to be designed. You give a clear purpose: domination, with a faith/gold focus. Then, all three uniques work toward that purpose and complement each other. The unit makes conquest easier, the trait gives a bonus for conquest, and the building adds happiness to help stymy the cost of conquest. All three help faith and/or gold. Just really perfect design here. Great work.

Very well made Civ! I'm looking forward to more Biblical civs in the future :)

Yay! Looking forward to a game with this.