@Eight-Ball okay I'll try to do that. Next update.

hdtomo is correct. You don't need to overwrite the entire file for just a couple of changes.

Create a file called anything but "00_defines.txt" in your mod (same path). In that file add the "NCharacter = { }" block and only include the couple of changes you made.

Then it's way more compatible with other mods that alter defines.

Updated to the current 1.8 thank you for the wait. put towards the top of the load order so it wont interfere with other mods that use diplo range.

you have to update this mod, it moves the map in a very unconvenient way

I haven't updated yet, I will fix soon.

this causes crazy mod clashes, reduce the file to just mention diplo range

I will be updating soon

yo

Does it still work?

Updated to 1.12 guys let me know how everything's working.

does the mod still work with the current game update?

So this is how it looks like with Rajas mod:
https://imgur.com/a/JDQZ1GR
Hope that helps.

warning to people in current state of this mod your balance,mortality marriage ,army tweaks wont work since this modify all with vanilla

man im so furious you took my 10 hours why the heck you copy paste all defines while you make change only 1 line of it damn you only need this nothing else NCharacter = { MAXIMUM_DIPLOMATIC_RANGE = 1500
}

@macluk It usually works with almost any mod. Rajas of Asia must've re-did the whole defines file which is possibly causing the issue.

For some reason the mod doesn't work well with... possibly Rajas of Asia mod - it creates 2 layers of maps that don't align.... so basically i'm building on the ocean surface :D:D

@tmtthesaurus in the 900's AD Nubians were travelling all the way to India to trade for spices. Even in the BC times as i said the Romans knew as far as china and had diplomatic relationships in africa, even all the way through the Persian area as well. Dont undermine the tech and knowledge of older civilizations.

The realistic approach would be massively restricting diplomatic range, not increasing it. A vague awareness of the existence of China and some incidental contact is hardly the same thing as a diplomatic relationship. We're aware of Jupiter and we even have probes orbiting it, but that hardly puts it within our diplomatic range

@Spaceracer It is irrational to give written text more credibility than hard presentable evidence like the footage I linked, or the physical inscriptions on the Pedro de Gávea, but your religious convictions concerning pseudo-clerical accredited “authorities” prevent you from thinking about this matter objectively.

@Spaceracer did you even watch the video? It contains footage of a group of men using the same technology egyptologists claim the pyramid blocks were carved with and they are only able to saw 4mm/hour. But you can’t open your mind for 5 seconds because you have academia so far down your throat.

OH, also, please do post that video of a rando youtuber (obviously more trustworthy than the actual people that made the research he cites in the first place; I'd bet my house on him never publishing a single paper in his entire life because ''only paid shills do that'' or whatever) on some scientific blog and post the link here, I'd love to see that.

I had a feeling he was the ''the experts know nothing, my internet research is the truth'' type.

@alchemistre Yes, it does work with existing save files.

Is this save compatible? Thanks.

@Spaceracer Idk what counter-arguments I’ve ignored, you’re the one ignoring the evidence. I don’t see what archaeologists refusing to talk about it has to do with anything—do you genuinely believe a carving of “Tyre, Phoenicia, Badezir, Firstborn of Jethbaal” is a natural formation? The chances that each of the Phoenician characters were randomly produced by weathering in a pattern that just happened to spell out coherent terms is absurdly low to the point that it is laughable.

The same experts that you are bowing down to in these matters claim that bronze age Egyptians used copper saws to carve the pyramid blocks. Guess what happened when people other than your experts tried to replicate this supposed method? https://youtu.be/0Oe1--ss51Q?si=k2wQ7XIHqNlwAKWq . Whether something is “peer-reviewed” or in academic discourse is irrelevant. A man bows only to God.

I had to butcher this one a lot to fit

Με το να λέτε πως αρχαίοι πολιτισμοί έκαναν πράγματα που προφανώς δεν έκαναν ποτέ τους, καθώς εάν είχαν αυτά αποδειχθή οι ιστορικοί και οι αρχαιολόγοι ευχαρίστως θα τα αποδέχονταν, στην πραγματικότητα προσβάλετε τους ίδιους πολιτισμούς που νομίζετε πως τιμάτε. Ξέρουμε καλά ήδη τι είδους μεγάλα κατορθώματα έχουν κάνει στο παρελθόν, δεν χρειάζεται να εφευρίσκουμε καινούργια για χάρη τους, λες και οι πράξεις τους δεν ήτανε αρκετές.

You can't just handwave something as big as ''pre-viking new-world-old-world contact'' as ''oh, all the sources were lost''. Again, biggest achievement of their civilisation.
We have books about rare fruits surviving but not about this?

Yet I'm the one coping. You did not even bring up the rest of my counter-arguments, you merely pulled a fallacy of selective attention. While I'm at it, why do you resort to using fallacies if you are genuinely correct about something? You could just list some facts, maybe add some peer reviewed sources or something...

First off, yes, circumnavigating Africa with bronze age ships is FAR easier than crossing an ocean. On one hand you're coast sailing, which means you can always stop to take a break if the weather is looking bad or you are running low on supplies, on the other you are crossing nothing but open waters for months. The vikings that discovered Vinland only did so because a ship got carried of course, and that's with a significantly smaller trip. I haven't even brought up how such ships were not suited for oceanfairing to begin with. For the record, that trip most likely did not actually happen as described. Surprise-surprise, humans spice up events a lot.
And lie. And remember things incorrectly despite being so sure about being correct.

But you think it's plausible all over a pareidolic pineapple and an inscription that South American archaeologists refuse to even talk about anymore because of how done to death it has been.

@Spaceracer, I believe it as well. I saw somewhere a while ago that they found Egyptian coins in Peru. Theres also Myths about the Vikings reaching the Americas way before Columbus. Many cultures burned 1000's of books after looting and razing cities so who knows what really went on back then. A lot of ancient history is burnt to the ground.

@Spaceracer Phoenicians are recorded as having circumnavigated Africa, and you’re seriously trying to claim that a voyage across the Atlantic is implausible? It would be a much shorter journey from the Pillars of Hercules than what surviving documentation shows that antiquarian seafarers accomplished. You’re coping so you don’t need to accept the glory of the ancients and the collective trauma of the dark age.

@Spaceracer Romans would not have needed to travel to the New World directly. The presence if a pineapple in Rome merely proves that there was contact between the New World and the Old World. Or they could have, Columbus believed he was in India after all, and it’s not like the entire empire was a collective mind.

If you read the inscription it is marking the name of the king of Tyre. Explorers declaring the lands they explore their sovereign’s property by planting a flag or some such is pretty common behavior, they even pretended to do the same thing on the moon effectively declaring it United States territory. These explorers were claiming the land for Jethbaal king of Tyre as an empty prestige.

If one good from the New World appeared in the Mediterranean (a pineapple), it wouldn’t be suspect for another (coca) to be.

Also, in what world would EXPLORERS of all people decide to leave an inscription on a mountainside, as if they wanted to make it as difficult for themselves as physically possible?

I should say, my issue is not that you believe in fringe stuff, as you seem to be getting rather defensive, my problem is that you say things like ''it proves it''. If it was actually confirmed, then it wouldn't be considered fringe would it?

With that being said, your last line is disingenious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and you should go ♥♥♥♥ yourself. Cocaine, just like canabis, has additional uses, most notably pharmaceutical ones. The chemists that handled the mummy test could very well have been dealing with cocaine as well. Call me crazy. (3)

but did that CONSISTENTLY through a trade route, where most ships would inevitably get lost as they have to cross the ocean and wouldn't have a clue if they're on the right track? If that actually was the case, it would have been the greatest single achievement of their entire civilisation. Not something they would just forget to mention.
And if you still think it's doable, I refer you to that infamous roman map of the known world.

What it actually was is most likely a pine cone. Yes, the Romans put pine cones on their plates. Just like how some people today put umbrellas on their drinks.

But if you really want it to be some fruit then I'd go with a screwpine, something they could get their hands on without going on suicide missions for it. (2)

@Neos Alexandros Don't just get stuck in my choice of wording. With ''uncommon'' I mean ''he has an entire bit where he explains how cool and impressive apricots were due to being *RARE* and *EXOTIC*''. And that's just one author that wrote about rare foods. (1)

On top of that, do you really believe the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Romans, the people that wrote down everything under the sun, including how they considered even travelling to good old Brittannia to be a daunting task, would never mention how they not only travelled once to a faraway land were they had to give up the advantages of coast sailing, predetermined routes, or even knowing if there is something at all where they were heading, somehow did not starve or dehydrate to death nor did they face a mutiny, went through all of that AGAIN during the return trip and somehow managed to arrive back to recognisable lands where they would become legends greater than some heroes,

@Spaceracer It sure looks like a pineapple. It wouldn’t have been “uncommon” it would have been a once-in-a-lifetime sight. The inscriptions on the Pedra da Gávea would not have been left by colonists but explorers from the Levant. There is no evidence that the archaeologists excavating Egyptian sarcophagi were snorting cocaine on the job.

The supposed pineapple was most likely a pinecone or some exotic fruit from India, Martial in one of his books where he describes in great detail every common and uncommon fooditem in Rome makes no mention of pineapples despite being extremely descriptive and thorough.
The phoenician language letters were most likely forgeries considering even Vinlandic archaeological discoveries are plentiful despite being so fleeting a settlement yet any reliable evidence for Mediterranean traces in pre-Columbian America is non-existant by comparison.
And the cocaine Egyptians were most likely cases of contamination from after they were buried, not before.
Have you people no regard for occam's razor??

@Neos Alexandros Correct. They found Egyptian gold coins in Mexico and Peru dated back to the Iron age and I think the vikings visited the America's before that.

Based that you mentioned ancient contacts with the new world. Phoenician letters in South America, pineapples in Roman frescos, and cocaine in Egyptian mummies prove it.

@ADVENT I'm glad you said that. The Diplomatic Envoy mod actually does what your saying and in conjuction with my mod it can give you the results your looking for.

I am looking to add more to this mod though that's a good idea.

@Raiman You shouldn't have a issue with Alliances. If anything it should benefit you to have more options then just your neighboring rulers.

I think it would be interesting and more historically accurate if instead of diplomatic range - Sending diplomatic actions would require sending a messenger to actually travel to the other realm and give your request to the other side. Of course certain character on character actions would not require that, such as start a scheme or declaring war.

Trade? Yes, Alliance that come running for you or AI, NO