@Marz, not at the moment, but I'm not opposed to adding such a feature.

Is it possible to disable them via config? I am looking to run a server with friends. and I dont trust them not using them for high level weapons lol

@Marz, Ethereal Runes are obtainable without cheats, but are optional and NOT for balanced play.
Ethereal Runes exist to bypass any issues players may have with Rune Application rules (i.e. weapon rarity locking what tiers or Rune it can have used on it).
For most scenarios, it is intended players use non-Ethereal Runes, which ARE designed with balanced play in mind.

Part of the design philosophy of this mod was to avoid making the vanilla game/balancing too easy like upgrade mods tend to do. That said, this isn't entirely avoidable since this IS still an upgrade mod.
At any rate, if you do end up having balancing issues, the mod has tons of config options that will let you fine tune balancing to suit your needs.

Hey block quick question. I was testing the mod to see if it was overpowered naturally or not. The ethereal runes the ones that apply on weapons regardless of rarity. Those ones are for testing correct?

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yes it should work with content mods

this mod working with calamity?

Oh, my bad! I'll check it out!

@Kookeh, purely for balanced play. Someone recently asked the same question in the Detailed List of Features thread so for a detailed explanation you should look at the comments there.

Probably a silly question, but is there some kinda advantage I'm missing with using a regular rune vs an ethereal rune? If Ethereal runes have no rarity requirement, then why use a regular rune?

After reading what you said again about fargos, I turned off sword rework in config and the issue was immediately solved.
So I guess while most weapons work,

The ones with a larger aoe than the actual blade will not work with rework.
Ones with projectiles will

Thank you Block! I've been using your stuff for a while now! Glad you responded so quickly!

Didn't realize you got back to me so fast(amazing btw) I proceeded to make another Night's edge with proper runes just in case and it still didn't work. So there might be either because of the damage area the edge has or that the damage area around the swing doesn't count as true melee damage. :shrug:

Upon further testing and research. It appears that others have experienced this issue with summoning weapons. A solution they found was using said item in the hotbar, compared to using it through the inventory. What's great is that this issue is easily replicable, and if you use a summon item through inventory, you will still see the level notifier in the corner, but no actual levels will be gained. This is the same issue as the night's edge sword I have. I also have had no issues with any other melee weapon so far

@Entombed, thanks for the details, that's super weird. There's been a very similar, long-standing, unresolved issue that's appeared on summon weapons. I figured that had something to do with minion mechanics, but I'm surprised to see the issue can appear with other weapons(?)

It's also possible it's a mod conflict, I see from your screenshot that Fargo's has changed how the weapon's swing animation works.

I tried a solo player game to see if it would sync. Didn't work. I then took a blank rune to remove its ability as well as apply a different rune. Still doesnt gain exp. Whats weird is amy other weapons still level fine.

The weapon, unless given an xp orb; Will not level up through any other means. However, when attacking enemies, the level-up notifier will still appear as such.
"Your weapon has levelled up 5->6"
" Your weapon has levelled up 5->11"
"Your weapon has levelled up 3-5"

It seems the actual value for the weapon level does not matter when this popup appears. The weapon is currently sitting at level 5 with 722 experience to go and it is a Night's edge.

TL:DR The weapon acts as though it receives exp and chat states it levels up but the weapon doesnt actually have any stat change.

Prntscreen: https://prnt.sc/bUn_COE6C7eX

@Entombed, no that seems really strange. Could be a mod conflict or (if multiplayer) a syncing issue.

Just to clarify, did the weapon level down in chat , or did you actually decrease its level?

The former shouldn't be possible, since only level increases are supposed to be announced.

In the latter case, if the level dropped because you changed the weapon's Base XP value, that may explain the random 'level up', as the weapon's level basically needs to recalibrate after its Base XP is changed.

Is it normal to have weapons level down and level to random numbers in chat just for it to stay at the same level?

I just realized we're getting tantalizingly close to 100K subs (crazy)...
Do I need to start working on a special update for such an occasion...?
(tbh I don't know what there is to add lol)

@好玩爱玩, v1.6 of the mod changed how Rune application works. The Simplified Chinese localization isn't up to date and thus inaccurate.
Try auto-translating the english version of the mod description (if possible), which contains a tutorial for the new Experience Rune Forge system.
The first preview image on this workshop page may help as well.

After using the rune, the weapon still shows as not enchanted. I'm sure I used the correct rune. What could be the problem?

@Sasha the Slayer, oops, sorry for mis-informing you on that. I looked at the wrong item's recipe when telling you.

@BlockCrusader, ah, welp I got the recipe mod as suggested bc I still couldn't figure out how to get the Ethereal ones, turns out they need glass. Not just a dormant rune, so, that's cool :)

@Sasha the Slayer, Tainted Runes are made from a Dormant Experience Rune & 2 Shadow Scales/Tissue Samples. Ethereal Experience Runes are made from just a Dormant Experience Rune.
These recipes (and pretty much all others in this mod) are crafted at an Experience Rune Forge.
Obtaining Dormant Rune(s) and a Forge is explained in the mod description above.

I highly advise using Recipe Browser for figuring out Rune recipes, since there isn't a wiki atm

yo how do you get Tainted/Ethereal Experience runes?

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@SonicX8000 (Continued)
As for the stat boost scaling; the values you get are to be expected. I (obviously) don't hardcode the results based on the level; it's all thrown into a formula that scales the boost based on your level and stuff, so inaccuracies due to rounding are inevitable.
Essentially what happens is this; each level you get multiplies the stat in question by a given value (Ex: Weapons get x1.01105 dmg per level by default). This stacks multiplicitivley, resulting in each level boosting the stat slightly more than the last.
All the multiplication of floating point values results in a lot of rounding, hence slight inaccuracies in the final values.

@SoniceX8000
Firstly, I don't think there's a great reason to add boosts to max life/mana.
Primarily for balancing reasons (Keep in mind Player Levels don't even grant stats by default for balanced play, which - as I've mentioned many times - is something I care about here), but also because how flat stat increases scale.
The +2 HP & +1 Mana per level you suggested would matter less and less with each level, since the proportional (%) increase to your totals would be smaller. Higher levels being less rewarding is counter-intuitive since higher levels are harder to get.

If that's not intended, would it be possible to do a flat increase for the Damage Boost & Reduction per level? I think with the values that I was aiming for the Flat Damage Boost Increase would be +0.005 & while for Damage Reduction I would do +0.25% per level.

By doing that, every 2 Levels for Damage you'll get x0.01 while for DR it'll take 4 levels to get 1% added, at Lv.100 that would reach x1.5 & 25% and with P1 - Lv. 100, it should reach x2 & 50%.

P2 - Lv. 100 if you wanna go there will put it at x2.5 & 75%, this is just an example, though.

(I would've put this in the earlier post, but I hit the character limit.)

I noticed a Debug Rune which grants you Lv.100, so a little bit of testing and I noticed something with the scaler for Damage Boost & Damage Reduction for the Player.

Damage Boost Multiplier (Player): 3.3500001
DR Multiplier(Player): 1.65

Lv. 25 > 50 > 75 > 100
Damage Boost x1.12 > 1.24 > 1.37 > 1.5
DR Boost: 7% > 13% > 19% > 25%

I did want for the Damage Boost to hit x1.5 as well as the DR to hit 25% upon reaching Lv. 100, though some of the numbers might be slightly off, prob rounding up/down. With Prestige 1... those should hit x2 & 50%... but...

Pre.1 - Lv. 0 > 25 > 50 > 75 > 100
Damage Boost x1.5 > x1.64 > x1.78 > x1.93 > x2.08
DR Boost: 25% > 30% > 36% > 41% > 46%

Damage Boost is x0.08 too high and DR is 4% short, though if I change the configs to...

Damage Boost Multiplier (Player): 3.1000001
DR Multiplier(Player): 1.8000001

Then P1 - Lv. 100 will have Damage Boost x2 & Reduction 50%, however... non-prestige for Lv. 100 will now be x1.46 & 27%.

Is this intended?

Ah, alright. One more question...I forget if I asked before.

Would it be possible that for Player Leveling they can be given Bonus Health & Mana per level? Like... a flat increase. For example...

Player Level is 0, you gain a level... you gain +2 Health & +1 Mana per level. (These can be config'd, much like how Damage 7 Damage Reduction can be changed.)

The max amount you can get will depend on the level cap (Default is 100.) Upon reaching Level 100, you will have an extra 200 Health & 100 Mana. If you Prestige and re-level up, you can get another 200 health & 100 Mana on top of that.

Assuming the level cap is 100 and the Prestige Cap is 1, that should be about 400 Health & 200 Mana.

The reason for asking is that not all level-ups will give you a Damage Bonus or Damage Reduction depending on their config, I still want to have the Player gain some sort of bonus for gaining a level, prob can also work well with the Level Cap Medals.

@SoniceX8000, each medal states how much it raises the cap in its tooltip; usually 5 or 10. The cap starts at 10, and there are just enough medals to get it to 100 by the end of the game.

How much is the level cap raised when using medals?

@BlockCrusader ah thank you i added mid way through so i didnt get one so i'll make as fresh character to store it thank you

@CrimsonVexiduos, new characters will spawn with a 'Reflection Rune' item that displays your XP/Level in its tooltip.
Alternatively, you can also get Reflection Runes by throwing a Dormant Experience Rune into Shimmer.

sorry if this is a stupid question but is there a way to see your current player level or is just when you level up

@Benjamin, using the Experience Rune Forge you can apply a Blank Rune to weapons to disable their ability to gain XP/Levels. Alternatively, applying a Void Rune instead will also wipe the target weapon's accumulated XP.
Blank Runes are made from a Dormant Experience Rune & Vile/Vicious Powder. Void Runes are made from Blank Runes and more Vile/Vicious Powder.

P.S. I assumed that by 'enchantment' you were referring to XP/Level gain. If you directly referring to enchantments, this mod doesn't add such a thing.

How do I remove an enchantment from my weapons/tools

@Agnostos, your findings do check out (In theory, summoning from the cursor (or via. some summon automation mod) probably causes issues with getting the item source for the summoned minion, hence why it would break as you describe), though I have personally had the bug occur with minions manually summoned from the hotbar, albeit only on extremely rare occasion (Which is why I can't figure out what's causing the issue).
TLDR: Still good advice, but the bug can very rarely occur regardless.

@Evan Yashiro, or anyone else playing summoner, here's a copy of a reply I made on the Issues/Bug Discussion Page earlier today that should hopefully help you out with your problem.

For the people having problems with getting xp with your minions, from my experience I do not believe there a problem with the summoning weapon or runes so you don't need to use a blank rune and reapply it, you are probably just summoning them from your inventory, and items used from the inventory just don't get xp for some reason. You need to summon your minions/sentry from your hotbar in order for them to gain xp, then after they are summoned you can move the weapon back into your inventory if you want. So whenever you get back into your world or die and respawn just remember to summon from your hotbar and you'll be fine. Hope this helps :)

is there a way top remove en anchantment from a weapon

(i forget to mention that "again" i mean after the minion cap is full)

For now, using the item again is making the minion don't gain xp, this is what i get from my test, i will test more later

I tested again the bug and now it's working with abigail, i just used the item and now she is gaining xp, i don't know what exactly do the "stop the gain of xp" thing now but i will test more

@Feit, nah it's fine

Thank you!
Do you wish I remove these comments to reduce clutter?

@Feit, there are settings for adjusting the UI's placement, so I guess those were thrown out of whack somehow?

Okay, after resetting mod settings, the UI returned. What setting would have caused that?

@Feit, just tested and I can't recreate the issue on my end. I'm not sure why the Forge would break for you, as the most recent patch made no changes to it.

However, the patch DID add a debug item that automatically opens the Forge UI whenever you open the inventory while said item is in your inventory.
That said, the item is entirely independent from the actual Forge item/tile, so I really doubt it could be interfering.
If you have a mod like Cheat Sheet, you could spawn in this item (the 'Debug Forge') and use it as a workaround if you can't get the actual Forge to work.

Hey! After latest update the xp forge doesnt open the forge UI anymore.