dwarves get both. Lords can get archivists. Heroes can get students and archivists. Cool program on github https://cpecific.github.io/twwh2_ancillary/warhammer_3.html which gives details on all the ancillaries.

Are you even supposed to be able to get students and archivists on the same race? I usually play factions that don't get either so I'm unfamiliar with some of the rules (remember I didn't make this mod, I just published it and try to maintain it when I can).

Oh my gosh, I didn't expect you to read this for like a year. I did get an archivist today. When there was 1 turn left on the research - a lord got it. I do think that's the correct timing for normal archivists occurring. And thank you so much for responding.

That's likely a bug then. I will put it on my list. No ETA I'm overwhelmed irl.

I've only been running this mod and a map lightning mod. I've ranked up Belegar to level 28, and a few other Lords into teens. I have zero archivists, but around 15 students. That doesn't seem correct. It would be incredibly bad luck to have never gotten an archivist. Though to be certain the students have been helpful.

Updated mod, it should work again. Let me know if you see any issues as I play High Elves so I never get Students. =)

thank you for response

I've unlisted the mod for now. Nakhthorheb is not modding at this time and I'm not sure I know what to do to fix the mod. I'll leave it on the workshop in case I can actually get adhd meds and dig into the code.

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I see; thanks!

According to *****lord447, in vanilla now you can only get a student on the turn you finish a tech.

I forgot what they changed tbh. I wasn't able to play for a few months and just got back.

So is this mod no longer necessary now because already in vanilla? I haven't played in a while, so I don't know what the current state of the game is like. Thanks in advance!

Hi Thanks for all your mods.
What Zarrk is referring to is CA modified the code for the Kislev priest of taal and ursun (starting at line 3273) lines 3278 and 3289(a new line was also added at 3288). You can see the changes by opening up CA's "script/campaign/wh3_campaign_followers.lua" in the data.pack file (in folder data). I don't know if these are the only changes.
Honestly, in my opinion, the best way to keep this mod update would be to replace your lua file with CA's new one then just change the student and archivist lines at 1393 and 1429(current locations) to "return true;" (ignore "s).
Thanks again for all your work.

@Zarrk While I did not write this mod (I just published it for someone else) I believe that is something I can probably update. But I will be going in a bit blind. If you can tell me what to look for or some line numbers that will help a lot.

@*****lord447 - I mostly play factions that don't get students. However, there is a 99% chance that CA's changes exist in the same .lua file as this mod's. Just based on that, the mod should prevail when it is enabled.

@Autumnchain no Patch 4.1 will mean you only get Students on a turn you finish a tech which is a big nerf. I'm hoping this mod overrides that change. Has anyone tested yet?

Interesting. I talked to Nakhthorheb and apparently the rules for getting them now are based on finishing a tech in the same turn a character ranks up. So not identical, it seems.

Patch 4.1 has put this great mod into the vanilla game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was you who caused it.

Just posting to notify CA has updated the script for both priest of Thaal and Ursun. This mod still works but an up-to-date version is still welcome.

I rarely make comments here on Steam, but this mod, is such a nobrainer to have on.

I can't understand people that find this "game loop" (to stop researching at the beginning of each turn and put it on at the end) engaging, it's just a meaningless chore.

Ty for posting this and thank Nakhthorheb for making it, this Ancillaries is one of the most useful, and yet one of the most asinine to get.

This is the best MOD thank you!

oh I had pushed an update while I was still running the older game version, so it didn't do the trick. I see what happened.

I have so many mods at this point that I am not sure I am going to push ghost updates for all of them to make them show updated in the launcher. I might do one for this mod later since it is pretty popular.

Mod stills shows at oudated in launcher to me.

Correction: This mod will need an update when new followers are added to the game. So, sorry about saying something incorrect earlier tonight.

I opened up script/campaign/wh3_campaign_followers.lua and headed to the -- DARK ELVES -- section and I didn't see an entry for students or archivists, etc. You may be out of luck!

Wasn't sure where else to ask this question so feel free to delete it after answering to avoid comment bloat: does anyone know what the conditions are for the Dark Elf version of a Student?

This mod will likely never need an update, but as a courtesy I've pushed an update just adding a text file to the mod so it will show green in the launcher. It's one of my top 3 subscribed mods so I might as well.

Not every mods need updating after a patch.

Update please.

LOL, Lycia, abused gamer syndrome ;)

Sounds like you've led a hard life. X_x

I didn't even know these followers existed

I don't have it memorized offhand but I know High Elves don't get students, so they're out of the running. I'm not sure who else doesn't get students and archivists.

Does anyone know which races this effects?

This should be vanilla. You've done a great service.

Thanks, Mortarch. =) Nakhthorheb made this one, I just published it for him cuz he didn't feel like it. =)

You're really popping these mods out dude! Nice one!

Oh my god, we finally have the power

Great idea. It's really stupid for research bonuses to be gained by NOT doing research.

This is often requested in various chats and forums and Nakhthorheb has done us all a great service! <3

Appreciated!

tyvm i love researchhammer