Do not use this along with any reaper variants or Drumax's Ghost Recon class. Instead of lowering the detection radius, Shadow makes the unit visible from about 3 miles away. I don't know if it works fine on default reapers, but it completely broke my non-standard reaper heroes

@Bawkdragon. I think both reworks are pretty good balance wise. As for activating them mid campaign its probably not the best idea.

how balanced is this and the templer rework, also how bad of a idea is it to turn this on mid game.

@Alex.S its sucks, but at least the compatibility issue has been found. Now its a case of fixing it.

alright then, sorry for the trouble m8

@Alex.S So after talking with a fellow mod author. Iridar would probably need to work with me on finding a fix for this issue. I cannot do it Solo.

Okay, after testing around a bit (just came back to play), it seems that this mod affected the Bounty Hunter's Nightfall ability by not allowing the ability to reduce the detection radius to 1 tile around the enemy. (there's no detection radius reduction at all)

It could be a compatibility issue, and I am not sure how to alleviate the problem. Is there anything else I should add here to help you solve the issue? (if you are willing of course)

Edit: mistakenly use Shadowfall instead of Nightfall

@Alex.S You can mess with the detection radius size in the configs of the mod but doing so will break things if you do not know what you are doing. As it is shadow eventually becomes as good as vanilla and in some cases better since 70% Detection radius reduction makes civilians not reveal the reaper (unless a mod messes with civilians detection radius).

Oh really?
Hmm in that case is there a way to modify the reworked Shadow?

@Alex.S This mod does not affect bounty hunters since they do not use Shadow.

is there a way for me to remove the Reworked Shadow? I suspected that this mod conflicts with the Bounty Hunter Class from Iridar, as it gives them no detection radius reduction when entering shadow.

@Feezec I do not use the mod so it may or may not work. Let me know if it does not work.

Does this work with Musashi's Wotc Stealth Overhaul?

@sovereign funny enough yes, that's is because its a perk firaxis made.

Hello, the skill "Improvised Silencer" is a blank image. Was this intentional?

@MrBenevolent Glad you are enjoying them.

@alpha115 OK awesome ty. Like I said I love these reworks so much I plan on making them permanent whether I can change that or not.

@MrBenevolent That one currently does not do anything ATM but I can make it work to affect the radius again now that I know the issue. Next update will fix that.

@alpha115 I've had no issues with all 3 of your reworks for the hero classes. Plays really well with about 300 other mods. If I decide I don't want the bigger detection radius but I want to continue using the mod is there a way for me to put it back to normal? I found a detection radius in the mods ini file is that the one?

If he's not modding anymore maybe you could make a reworked version? I like to play with different hero classes (and other soldier classes too, currently more than 80, including most of yours).

@Marcus Aquila Thank @Cain for finding the lead. Still kind of sucks, only way to fix it would be to rework the reaper scythe class and PZ is no longer modding I think.

Good to know what the problem is. Thanks for looking into it!

@Marcus Aquila and Cain I looked into it so far I cannot fix this issue on my end the reaper scythe class has to fix the issue it breaks the detection radius reduction of my mod. I understand how it break my mod because it does something similar. It stacks the effects which breaks things. I never used the mod so it makes sense why I've not had the issue. It messes with the reapers stealth system in a much more invasive way.

The reaper Scythe is my main suspect too (but I like that class too much to ditch it...).

I've been having the super extended reaper detection issue as well, but I've done a little bit of testing, and found that the cause for the issue is the Reaper Scythe Class (And potentially the other alternate Reaper class mods through the Multiple Faction Soldier Classes mod by PZ). I'm no modder or coder, so I'm not sure why these two conflict, but hopefully a fix can be made.

@Alpha115 this mod and your skirmisher ones look awesome (my two favorite classes, Skirmisher being number 1 for me). I'll let you know if I have the detection issue.

I've posted the code for the perk that reduces detection radius. I know the code works and is solid so again something else is possibly breaking detection radius.

@XpanD I am uploading a new update. If this does not work then it is something in a modlist breaking something.

Nope, still happening. The issue seems to go away immediately on disabling the mod. I don't /think/ I'm running anything that touches stealth, and from what I can see the list of reaper-related mods is pretty light too: Just the Monk/Cryptic Hero/Scythe subclasses.

Hang on, apparently Reaper Reworked was enabled again when I imported my mod list. I'll test again later, maybe that was interfering? (though I'm sure I had that off last time -- will see if the change helped here)

@XpanD This is what I do.

static function UpdateShadow115()
{
local X2AbilityTemplateManager Mgr;
local X2AbilityTemplate FocusTemplate;

Mgr = class'X2AbilityTemplateManager'.static.GetAbilityTemplateManager();

FocusTemplate = Mgr.FindAbilityTemplate('ShadowPassive');
FocusTemplate.AdditionalAbilities.AddItem('A115ReapSneak');

}

@XpanD So then my theory is some mod is affecting ShadowPassive perk. Because all I did was attach a single perk to ShadowPassive.

No luck on the update, it seems. Doing the Lost intro mission, insta-revealed the moment enemies came in. :(

This is a really good rework of the Reaper, relevant perks.

I've posted an update no idea if this will fix people's issues. I am hoping it works.

I have the same problem, but I don't use Stealth Overhaul, so that is not the culprit.

Hey Alpha. As far as i am aware stealth overhaul is the only one that changes detection ranges? Thank you for replying in any case.

@mingmong01 are you using any mods that mess with detection range in any way?

@mingmong01 a mod in your modlist is causing an issue with the detection radius. Not sure which one sadly, as others do not have the issue and it works in my game.

Great mod but as below there seems to be a problem with the detection radius, the reaper has a higher detection radius than normal soldiers. I see others seem to be having the same problem. I have a mid range mod list (350-400).

@XpanD I have no idea what could be the conflict. It works in my game ATM. I've got 600 mods myself.

Seeing the immediate reveal here as well, though with a pretty huge mod list. (702 mods, including all the alternate faction hero classes)

Any info I could provide to help diagnose this?

@Jokerke No idea, if you use the mod with it and something breaks let me know. I might not be able to fix it but I will update the mod description to warn future users.

Does this work with Stealth Overhaul?

@Marcus Aquila, so the mod works. Some sort of mod conflict is occurring to cause the problem you are having. The mod works in my game for many others. Until someone can give me more substantial evidence, I cannot do anything else.

I like this reaper mod but when I used it all my reapers got spotted right away, even if other units could still remain concealed. Switching back to [WOTC] Reaper Reworked solved the problem, so there definitely seems to be something wrong with this mod.

I tried unsubscribing and then resubscribing to no avail. Is it possible that this mod isn't playing nice with Multiple Faction Soldier Classes?

@Seraphim Sword thanks, glad you are having fun with the mod. I've been working hard on all my class mods, and class reworks. I'm trying to find the right amount of fun/power level for all classes.

I rarely like new or modified class mods, especially as the enemy mods I have tend to be more on the masochist extreme levels. But I must say that this 1 and your sniper/specialist class mod were well thought out. Rather than being simply OP or "this is a cool perk to throw in", you put a lot of them in a way to build upon each other.

And moving the "homing mine" perk down the tree was a great call. Excited to try some of your other classes now.

@Rasa I've got plans to do something with the Templar. Its mostly done code wise just got to test it. I've got the skirmishers and sparks done and out as well they were fun reworks.

I haven't had any problems with the detection radius anymore.
Thank you, I've enjoyed the mod.

anyways, dropped to ask if you have plans for the other hero classes or if this was a one-off thing? just curious and not asking for you to make them.