Please add more ammo piles to the Book Learning courses. I hate going into the shooting range to refill on ammo just to have to pick up a completely new instance of my gun because there's no ammo piles in there.

Oh btw, on the Nerd Chart it's categorized by colors.

Red = Shotgun
Noted: Damage (Shot) refers to Damage Per Pellet for Shotguns.
You have to check out Damage (Burst) which refers to Damage Per Shot
to get final results ^^

Blue = Automatic
Noted: For FN-SCAR it has 3 Round Burst as default (In L4D2)
so check out Damage (Burst) to get final result ^^

Green = Sniper Rifle

Purple = Secondary firearms (P220&Glock and Desert Eagle)

Orange = Turret
Noted: Machine Gun refers to [Browning M2] and Minigun refers to [M134 A2 (I think ^-^')]

Grey = Special firearms (M60 and M79)

If we have an update for Color Guide (What those colors represented) on top of the chart
that would be superb for easier understanding ^^

This here is recommended for both Starter and Veteran. For those of you Starters who have seen a Chart for Nerd XD full of Math, don't think too much about it aight.
Devs have already balanced all weapons,
so feel free to pick up whatever you feel right.
Some of them firearms may have lower Damage, slower Fire rate or slower Reload speed but guess what, you have a friends and Bots to fill up that small small weakness ^^
"Play it because it's fun" that's it.

And for Veterans, use it as Data Warehouse or whatever you preferred ^^

i was literally describing crowning and how this does tell you about it

@missing texture bro i was answering someone who was complaining telling them that

You should create a survival mode version I think that would be pretty neat.

@MissingTexture Not recommended on Realism, however, since Witches copy the ballistic resistance that Commons get in that mode.

@Demoman tf2
You can one shot a Witch by doing a well-timed Shotgun headshot on her. It's called 'Crowning'. Please actually research stuff before complaining.

52.3/100

Normal for Specials to knock down the doors? lol shouldnt they be indestructible?

1.instructor tells you to bash hunters and jockeys
2.this tutorial says shotguns are good against witches and shows that they do 1000 damage and that she has 1000 health
3.wtf are you talking about stunning tanks to make them only throw like i've never had to do that ever and googling it doesnt show me what it is

if you want to say "that's lot of info for newcomer to know", why this tutorial don't have "LMB to shoot" tutorial...?
tutorial should teach more than first done dead centre, don't you think?

no actual good info. no words about bashing jockey and hunters, oneshoting witches, stunning tanks to make them only throw rocks, etc.
all the info could be obtained after first compain of game.
wiki has numbers of weapon (even ttk of tank with each weapon) and infected.
as it said - nice idea, poor realization

Best addon ngl

My in-game wiki, a must have

@DarkKnightofIT

Glad you enjoyed! Fair points, but I'm pretty sure the game tells you with on-screen prompts that you can melee Hunter, Smoker, and Jockey pins when they happen. In general, I tried to avoid information that was too obvious or explained by the in-game HUD messages. I didn't want to fill players' heads with too much info at once, hence why so much stuff is optional.

My only "issue" is not saying it's possible to knock survivor's out of pins if it's a Jockey, Hunter, or Smoker. but I genuinely learned stuff and I have over a hundred hours logged on Steam.

Good map. Would be cool if this one added officially and locked other campaigns while this one not passed. Specially for newbies who never played before.

Always happy to help, glad to see that my feedback will be put towards making the map better for all players

@Geebanger0

Thanks for the review! Your feedback will be passed along through the appropriate channels

The Unofficial Left 4 Dead Tutorial (Campaign) review

Length: very long (took us 3 hours on easy difficulty)

Difficulty: 10/10 (died 6 times per chapter)

I just want to say, this map is very, very hard. you really need to tone down the number of zombies because it was so scary we could hardly play it. also you should remove those things idk i forgot what theyre called, witches, i think, because she hit me and i died that was quite traumatising

I expected something else, but a welcome surprise nonetheless. :wink:

Patch 1.5 is now live, which finally adds a Tank battle to the finale along with a bunch of small improvements. This will probably be the final update unless something is broken. Thank you all for playing!

Awesome. It's a perfect tutorial for any new player.

great tutorial but forgot about laser sights

Needs a tank at the end!

Your tutorial is missing info on the laser sights upgrade (may be also update the chart for nerds with weapon spread with and without laser sights).

i learned more from this than playing campaign 117 times

This need to be in Left 4 Dead 3 or the Source Engine 2 Update

Fox McCloud is never getting another game again

@SirAttlich

To repeat myself from an older comment: crouch jumping is almost non-existent in Left 4 Dead. A standard jump already propels you 56 units upward, and the extra height from a crouch jump is less than 1 full unit of in-game distance. Realistically, you will never need it unless you're a speedrunner.

Keep in mind this is a tutorial, not an encyclopedia. Getting players familiar with the basics so they can finish a campaign and enjoy themselves is the number one priority. I'm aware of almost every niche mechanic and subtle intricacy in Left 4 Dead at this point -- I just don't think new players need to learn such minor details to be helpful teammates.

Frankly, I'd say the tutorial is a little bloated as is! There's a reason most of the content is optional

The begginer part was okay, pretty much a dum-dum tutorial for those playing an FPS for the very first time.

Advanced part had me quite disappointed as it had info that IMO should've been in the beginner section. The biggest things you've missed out explaining are the AI bots - their behaviour, the special conditions they have set by the game (e.g half-damage in Spitter acid, unable to trigger car alarms with their own bullets) as well as more stuff like:

- being unable to be picked up if attacked by horde
- importance of laser sights
- crouch jumping (yes, I am serious)
- sharing supplies

It's not IGN levels of bad, but it could be better

I read the first page of comments with my stupid ass voice

Great tutorial map, and I love the Poolrooms/Backrooms vibe it has going on

this little guide is amazing, truly helped me knowing the difference between the shotguns and some SMGs, plus I really loved the poolrooms-themed final exam.

뉴비를 위한 훈련맵인데 상당히 잘만들었음. 깔끔하고 명확함

I searched Liminal Space And I got Wrong mod

Also, if you want to crown a witch with just a single shot, then I prefer either Chrome or SPAS-12 shotguns because of their tight spread...

Since this is something people keep commenting about:

Wood Shotgun: 25 damage times 10 pellets (250), low accuracy
Chrome Shotgun: 31 damage times 8 pellets (248), high accuracy

Benelli Autoshotgun: 23 damage times 11 pellets (253), low accuracy
SPAS Autoshotgun: 28 damage times 9 pellets (252), medium accuracy

The max possible damage between all four shotguns is very similar. However, it's easier to do more damage at close range with the Wood/Benelli, and it's easier to do more damage at mid range with the Chrome/SPAS.

Basically, the Wood/Benelli are better for crowds and close range. The Chrome/SPAS are better for single targets and mid range.

In hindsight I could've explained this better in the map itself. Oh well

More specifically it deals less damage but has a tighter grouping, so not only does it have a "longer range" but it's easier to get every pellet to hit where you aim. At least I heard that in a video.

SPAS-12 deals less damage, but has longer range than the M1014

Wait, the spas deals less damage than auto shotgun?

i didnt even know there was a difference between the 2 types of shotguns after 300 hours
this map is helpful

This is one of the best maps on the workshop. While most things are basic, its still fun to explore and experiment in.

You planning to do a "sequel" where you practice playing the Special Infected?

Like a obstacle course for Hunter/Jockey jumping, or aim practice for Tank rock throws or Spitting, or some trivia of when to attack and how the SI synergize.

@Voidwalker

Bless you, I could not find any stats online or in the game files that matched my in-game testing. I think you're right, something changes the cvars so they're not exact.

If I ever get around to it, I'll update this tutorial and credit you in the patch notes

Yo heads up on info for the turrets:
• the minigun deals damage based on cvars, the damage per shot is equal to (z_minigun_damage_rate / z_minigun_rate_of_fire) , so by default it deals 32 damage per shot.
• the minigun has a rate of fire based on the z_minigun_rate_of_fire cvar, however the amounts of shots per a second is NOT just (z_minigun_rate_of_fire / 60) like the wiki says, something else is reducing it by roughly 75% that I have yet to discover, so the in-game rate of fire is ~6.25, resulting in a true dps of ~200.
• the mounted mg has the same spread as the minigun (uses the same cvar).

This is a really well made tutorial campaign,
I would recommend this to any Left 4 Dead 2 Newbies/Rookies.
I didn't know some weapons have different preferences like low or high damage.

@Vic

It was a tough decision, but I intentionally avoided mentioning any specific buttons/keys because L4D2 has fully customizable controls and I didn't want to accidentally confuse someone. Also, the Witch slide in the green room specifically says, and I quote, "Use fire or shotguns for best results"

I think it's missing the flashlight button info, It's only mentioned on witch's info but does not say which button turns it on or off. Also, you can do more with shoving, you can block a hunter, free an ally imprisoned by smoker. You can insta kill a witch with a shotgun, and molotov can be useful to slow it down. All in all great map, specially the weapon and infected info.