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Darkest Dungeon®

Bogatyr Class Mod
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Oleksandr 10 月 21 日 上午 10:22 
Does he have a related district?
Caulder 10 月 14 日 下午 9:20 
Does the Bogatyr not have a CoM trinket? Or is it locked to nightmare bosses only?
Sabbel 10 月 4 日 上午 9:07 
The nightmare cancels out any joy I've felt from the cozy bogatyr and then some, perfectly balanced mod.
Dad 9 月 21 日 下午 2:29 
cant say I'm a fan of the boss fight. I love everything else about the mod, but it feels incredibly unfair to have a comp which is basically completely unable to kill the boss. the fact i'm not able to retreat is insane as well.

currently fighting the boss with a team comp which has basically been completely unable to do anything for 5 turns straight because they're getting stunned and shuffled over and over.

the fact the boss can do a whole party stun AND shuffle (on top of being immune to damage and having 3 turns) is imo not so great in terms of balancing. I mean seriously? you've basically just made a boss which half to 2 thirds of all team comps cannot beat.

it makes me so sad to say this because I love everything else about the character- but the nightmares just seem like a massive F you to anyone who wants to take him on anything but a short mission.

ive beaten the boss before, but not once has it ever been 'fun'. it feels like a chore to get to enjoy the character.
LimeUser 9 月 17 日 下午 12:37 
I believe the rune dilemma in camps needs a change.
Losing a charge on camp skills isn't worth the buff when it also comes with a debuff.
Having the debuff last x battles could make it worthwhile, as if the recipients get used to the rune effects.
And i somewhat agree with Iron that the Bogatyr feels like a jack of all trades but not that good in any of them
IRON 8 月 13 日 上午 10:41 
Or is just bsc Mountain torchless I guess
IRON 8 月 13 日 上午 10:40 
TL;DR I will try to experiment on Bogatyr in the upcoming week since the current experience does exclude specific trinkets and level which "might" make him work. My thoughts rn however, is that Bogatyr doesn't earn its team slot. I can choose to pick him for "fun" but really that would be a scenario where I specifically pick 2 REALLY gigachad dps or insert 1 random op character **plus** a main healer and/or stress healer, basically having the dude be a shameless cheerleader.

Actually I'm just really, really, really pissed off to see Bogatyr getting cold. Like seriously a guy that can breath coldness get caught up on cold. What the actual fuck.
IRON 8 月 13 日 上午 10:40 
Currently hating this class.
Context: I realize my Bogatyr who got "cold" from the mountain mod is about to waste due to being in final stage, so I take him to the mountain. I'm a torchless guy. Bogatyr has forced me to retreat 2 missions in a row. At first, I thought he can be the main healer + stress healer but no, his healing is mediocre with a 2 rounds cd, combine with lackluster offensives, basically making my team into an actual 3/4, snowball the situation into so much stress which [The Only Decent Ability-his stress skill] can not handle. For the second time, I've tried to synergize him with classes that stuns. I was using a cat that is able to stun all 4 rows, having the Bogatyr to act while stuns are in effect, then it hit for 13 or smth. And the shield is just laughable.
Goblin Stalker 8 月 7 日 上午 11:00 
Сделано отлично. Жаль только идея с боссами, атакующими на привале - полная хуйня. Особенно учитывая, какие они душные и долгие.
Shariul 7 月 30 日 上午 7:57 
Страссуешь vs Бахнув пельминив
Grandmaster Mitko 7 月 29 日 下午 2:54 
This hero must be inspired by Saint John Maximovitch (may he pray for us). Or at least a little bit. Anyway very cool mod.
Overlord Byron 7 月 13 日 下午 10:03 
Just to be clear, you made a character whose speed ensures that he acts at the end of the turn and deals bonus damage off stun (meaning he basically can't make use of his own combo) and to balance that out you added a night raid boss who gets a free party-wide shuffle AND a free party-wide stun AND attacks three times AND can self-heal AND requires you to consistently attack rows 3 and four just so you can START to deal damage to it?

I wouldn't put up with this boss to play the Highwayman. What makes you think I'd do it for bogatyr?
Wikloe 6 月 23 日 下午 6:06 
There is literally no viable strategy because the boss has a counter for every single possibility.

High damage? It's got 100% damage negation you need to debuff but since it has 3 attacks per turn, it can lose this fast, so gotta reapply quick. Better hope your entire team is able to hit the front and back rows from ANY position.

Going the DOT? It has high resistances, can mass stun, and will mass stumble, disrupting any flow. And he can heal off the DOT.

I understand the whole point of needing to learn a boss fight. You might not know what the gimmick is ahead of time, so you prepare, and take a chance on what might work. All the main game bosses are like this. No one KNEW the Prophet was hidden behind 3 rows of wreckage when first playing the game.

But you know what the difference is between the mad prophet and this? Even with a bad party that doesn't mesh well with the boss's gimmick, you still have a GOOD CHANCE with some careful planning and a pinch of luck.
Здарова агенты 6 月 15 日 上午 11:23 
Ящеры не устоят.
Поднимайтесь Русы время с силой нечистою биться.
Lord_Grimm 6 月 11 日 下午 4:19 
Отдельный респект от русских
幻想哥布林 6 月 9 日 上午 4:15 
太弱了
RorytheRomulan 5 月 24 日 下午 8:56 
Oh that's just what I need. Why would I ever put this bad luck charm on a team? You say the Phylactery can be fought on any difficulty, no it fucking can't. In Easy dungeons it gets 3 turns, and in between you gotta hit a stupid rock to do any damage to it while it's pulverizing you? Get the fuck outta here, I'd be doing short missions with him until I'm ready to bring him along on medium or long. Cool concept. Don't need that trash in my life.
Octop 5 月 4 日 下午 1:17 
Is there a way to play the old bogatyr; the one where you build up stun chance then cash in with the aoe stun ? I liked that one a lot
Delius 3 月 5 日 上午 10:23 
The hero himself is very cool, but the fight with the boss, especially at low levels, is simply ungodly, you should be ashamed that your hands did something like this.
The Ur Pigeon 2 月 16 日 下午 1:20 
I really want to like The Bogatyr, it's a very cool concept with great art to go with it. Unfortunately I think the character is hamstrung by being tied to the Stun mechanic as part of his combo, Stun being the most unreliable and finnicky of DD status effects. I know my opinion probably doesn't mean much, just my two cents.
MERLIN 2 月 12 日 下午 12:58 
Huge fan of this class , do you plan on port him to BR ?
Verllero 1 月 30 日 下午 8:34 
Nice.
SUZUMI ALT IS REAL 1 月 28 日 下午 3:03 
damn, he actually have 2 trinkets for stuns, im sorre boss, please dont make me do 4 lv0 heroes dd run :steamsad:
楓 Yo°F 1 月 18 日 上午 12:00 
I really like this mod, please add Chinese translation,
SUZUMI ALT IS REAL 2024 年 12 月 19 日 下午 9:47 
im the only one who never had problem with boss?
like really,bogatyr having a perfect kit to deal with this thing,also not placing torchlight on 0 level
the only problem i have is that he have small damage(would be good to add 1-2 points) and strange trinkets(NO STUN TRINKETS FOR STUN CHARACTER,WHAT AN IRONY)
also after you beat boss, would be good to see what path from stone can do
Xanrilla 2024 年 12 月 11 日 下午 11:42 
Bogatyr fits the BEST on my team.
great second healer that giving buffs and stun.
汉东省第二突破手侯亮平 2024 年 12 月 11 日 下午 5:20 
强度很低,不如原版角色,萌新慎重
FacuPlay525 2024 年 12 月 2 日 下午 3:07 
4/10 Mod
- Has an incredible design and so much charm in how he portraits winter
- The gameplay of this character its... Strange, so his main gimmick its Stun and Low speed in enemys to gain more damage but it just doesnt work at all, this combo its so hard to do and the damage of the "COMBO" its so poor and mediocre
- The other abillities are very helpful in combat, good healing, buff speed, give stun chance, etc
- AND THE WORST PART OF THE MOD OVER ALL, ITS THE DAMN BOSS. Its just so ridicolous how he spawn in level 2 dungeons, has 3 turns, and almost invencible armor,
The chracacter overall fits so well like a Stress healer tank and defender with his stuns an buffs but the balance is so BAD OMG
Leenbow 2024 年 11 月 20 日 上午 7:39 
Outside from boss hate and good visual design, why would anyone think this is a good character? 🤔

I feel like his only good ability is AOE heal, it is strong. Which is... idk, just a bad idea? He might as well be a cook, not a strong sword-wielding guy.

His main gimmick of being a stun character feels so underwhelming. His stun buffs\combo almost never works. And having a strong heal disrupts his combo patterns, as often I would just prefer to use it instead.

He requires some sort of very specific stun heavy party for his stuns\buffs to be useful... and I just can't imagine that sort of party to be good or reliable or fun. Otherwise, he feels like a really weak fighter, which is weird considering his appearance

And then he has that boss fight, where the boss isn't weak to stuns (having 3 turns per round) and basically requiring yet another specific type of party, just crazy

Got this mod from a modpack expanding the game, so far this is the only character I rly want to remove
巫马煜言 2024 年 10 月 21 日 下午 7:45 
设计很好,但过于保守,站位问题很明显,不方便配队
Milosz0pl 2024 年 10 月 14 日 上午 5:47 
For anybody who hates boss

just edit koschei_A.info.darkest in mod folder and do so with B and C

I really did enjoy having guaranted party kill due to not having consistent way to attack both a boss and a stone
akoskosos 2024 年 10 月 7 日 上午 8:34 
I agree. Honestly, I really love the design of this class and considering using it again but I'm not really sure atm.
Last time when I ranted was the first time I used a bogatyr and not knowing how the whole thing works (OK, not reading the flashback warning is on me) I got kinda surprised during camping.
Tried out a meme comp based on a 'puller' at the back and stunners at the front and suddenly had this boss with a comp where 2 guys couldn't hit behind rank 2 and 2 could only do it from specific positions. So wanted to flee which was apparently not an option.
I'm willing to use Bogatyr and undertake this challenge if either the number of encounters is finite, so you can get over them and enjoy the class just like with shieldbearer or if at least you can escape if you wanna. Can manage the stress afterwards.
chel 2024 年 10 月 2 日 下午 11:21 
HAHAHAHA. i came here to be like "man, i love that the bogatyr is a back-line tank/healer/support hybrid. i wish i could use him because the nightmare fight can just brick you in bloodmoon" but it looks like im not the only one. a party wide stun is fine. DOT healing on a boss with 3 moves per turn (multiple turn enemies are weak to DOTs) is fine. mass stress and shuffling is fine. the gimmick is fun. but all put together, it feels like a boss thats designed to not have any weaknesses and give even a prepared, specific to this encounter party a really hard time. and in a game where people kind of DONT want to study a boss fight they havent even seen yet because thats why this game is fun, thats just a horrible, horrible time.
being like "just bring 2-3 range AOE's" is great and all, but do you think a player is going to know that?
the dwimmerlaik is another boss that has this same problem imo. i know its rich to tell darkest dungeon mods to try and be balanced, but let a man dream.
Denter206 2024 年 10 月 1 日 上午 3:01 
W348, you're totally right
akoskosos 2024 年 9 月 30 日 下午 2:10 
Man.
The class itself is awesome, what a frontline vestal should have been with some added stun flavor.
The character itself, I loved.
But the nightmare is just retarded. You can do it if you know the char and bring a perfect comp not for the dungeon but to have an edge over the nightmare. People trying out new stuff with mods won't read wikis and learn everything beforehand, they wanna learn while experiencing the fun of the new stuff.
Stunny Santa Claus boy is 5 stars.
Bs monster with 3 actions, constant shuffle, aoe stuns, aoe stress etc is not.
And. Why. Can't. You. Retreat. From. The. Fight.
1 star.
Piqkin Piqpa 2024 年 9 月 5 日 下午 9:36 
Looks like Denter rage quitted
Denter206 2024 年 9 月 3 日 上午 6:19 
Perfect ruins run was ruined because of your unability to make balanced bosses.
Denter206 2024 年 9 月 3 日 上午 5:50 
There is way how to get out of the bossfight, though. If you completely get wrecked, just exit to main menu and disable bogatyr mod. The character of Bogatyr will disappear but the fight will too.
Denter206 2024 年 9 月 3 日 上午 5:43 
This asshole just spams sigil attacks causing enormous amount of stress, I can do no shit to him.
Denter206 2024 年 9 月 3 日 上午 5:42 
Dude... you were so fucked up when you were creating the Phylactery.
FunnyGuy 2024 年 8 月 13 日 下午 4:18 
Class is great, but the flashback boss fight is not as trivial as it would seem. Since it looks like the boss won't be nerfed (considering how old are comments asking for it), I strongly recommend keeping track of wheather the boss has a chance to appear in the run and prep for it.

short guide
one of bosses actions can heal DOTs so DOT damage is not the ultimate way of dealing with it, another one makes whole party stumble so be ready for hero postitioning, lastly be ready waste some turns to hit a debuffing stone from time to time (any AOE is fine for the job)
Sea'Gummilian 2024 年 8 月 1 日 上午 12:19 
Me causally fighting the phylactery while having Broken Vessel in the background
Jesterofgames7712 2024 年 7 月 28 日 上午 11:22 
@Gingerbead
I recommend having some stun resist on party members and a Arbalist or the stress heal on the bogatyr as those clear stuns.
Spectrum Boy 2024 年 7 月 28 日 上午 9:20 
Real cool class absolutely ruined by the nightmare mechanic
Class is great, love the guy even if he is a bit weak he's tonnes of fun

The nightmare?
Has health comparable to the swine king, with 100% damage resistance (hit the stone in slot 4, gives him a debuff to take more damage)
But he has three actions a turn so that debuff barely lasts

He has a single target nuke
He has a party wide stun and a party wide shuffle debuff
He will obliterate almost every team comp due to those stuns, shuffles, and high damage slaps happening every turn. People will constantly be pulled out of position so it's RNG if you get to use heal or AOE, or if the people you need are stunned

Main problem is since it works like the shieldbreaker nightmare, you cant retreat if its not going well
Putting this boss in a no retreat scenario is absurd, Unless the bogatyr gets on death's door, he will kill multiple of your party members since there's no way to back out. I cant stress enough how terrible that feels
mexicancat 2024 年 7 月 25 日 下午 1:18 
big bro just healed the siren for like 750 hp total amazing class 10/10
于明迦 2024 年 7 月 23 日 上午 10:52 
这boos做的就是一坨屎
HaziTru 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 7:47 
I got the phylactery on my third mission and lost. Is there a way to get this class without that thing. It's super OP and made me loose my run I was having a good start. If not I might have to uninstall for that boss isn't balanced. Bro got like 100 health and do much prot even with the debuff your still only doing 1-4 damage.
Jesterofgames7712 2024 年 7 月 15 日 下午 3:09 
The Boss needs to be beaten three times, once on each dungeon difficulty (apprentice, Veteran, and champion) but will never spawn again on said difficulties once beaten. And you'll get additional buffs (And I think are impervious to nighttime ambushes) once you beat it.
Vingthor 2024 年 7 月 15 日 下午 1:32 
Does one have to beat the phylactery so it does not show up again? Or does it only show up three times?
twitch.tv/alibi_ 2024 年 7 月 12 日 上午 9:32 
DLC trinkets would be awsome <3