Hey op, how about a compromise? Give Crimea to Russia but add a modifier + 90 to minimum local autonomy and - 5 diplomatic reputation or something. Hell, you can even give it local coring cost +999% so that Russia would be overextended.

Give crimea to Russia. Just because it isn't recognized, doesn't mean they don't physically own it. Recognition is on paper and in people's minds, while ownership is objective and material

You forgot Crimea, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Donetsk and Lugansk

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Darkshield You have a right. Germans had this idea from times of clausewitz. Brest Litovsk simply was sinister realisation of their evil german grayish agenda. Ukraine is no real country. It is german strategists wet dream that unforutnatly came to realisation. But soon they will disapear.

I would like to point out, while not myself defending the actions of the Ukrainian government that Ukraine was not created by Germany and owned Crimea for more than half a century.

The Ukrainians declared independence shortly before the treaty of Brest Litovsk which mearly forced Soviet Russia to recognise the independance of Ukraine

Ukraine continued to exist in a limited way within the Soviet Union and in 1954 Crimea was tranfered from Russia to the Ukraine and when the Soviet union decentralised and eventually dissolved, the Ukraine governed Crimea directly

however, all of this having been said Crimea is apart of Russia and Russia governs Crimea now, almost every country accepts that Crimea is apart of Russia, but they condemn the reason for its integration into Russia

Ukriane was not a country until the Germans created the state in the treaty of Brest Litovsk in 1917... There was no Ukrainian nation in history, never. It is a fake nation, and a fake nationality. The people of Crimea are Russian, and joined Russia out of fear of Ukrainian neo nazis that had taken power in the Maidan coup. Look at Eastern Ukraine. The Ukrainian army is bombing civillians with Grad rockets. Nobody talks about it in the west because they were the ones who created the coup and cant accept that they created a neo nazi state. Their slogan is Slava Ukraini, Geroyam Slava which means glory to ukriane, glory to the heros... Sound familiar? They have pictures of stepan bandera in the ukrainian parliament. You know, the guy who cooperated with the nazis to kill ethinic poles, jews, and ukrainians and russians... WTF?

Crimea is Russian. The flag flies over the nation... So WTF?

Crimea was an award to Ukraine, one which Russia saw fit to revoke. Ukraine doesn't even deserve half of its territory, let alone Crimea. I would like to add the fact that when Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, nobody cared about what the League of Nations said.

You talk about doing your best not to pick a side, yet you clearly say that u sided with something/someone.

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I have not included Crimea as part of Russia in this mod because in real life, this issue is unresolved. I will not change this mod unless there is a clear resolution. When it comes to controversial topics like this, I will do my best not to choose sides, but when I must make a choice, I go with the most legitimate, official thing I can. The UN is about the most official global entity I can think of, so if I must pick a side, I'll side with them for now.
In any case, I think it would be best if we both dropped this and moved on, because in the end it doesn’t matter much. This is only a mod, and if it really bothers you that much, you can just use the console command own_core <province id> <country tag (optional)> to give Crimea to Russia.

@AUSLÄNDER RAUS
Crimea was originally part of the Ukraine following the fall of the Soviet Union, although with a small amount of autonomy. Russia took advantage of the chaos of the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution to occupy Russian-sympathic parts of the Ukraine. Russia then announced that it was annexing Crimea, which the UN struck down as "illegal". Russia has refused to leave. It is still officially part of the Ukraine, although under Russian occupation.

You keep saying that Crimea is inside Ukrains borders while obviously its under russian control. How did russia invade something illegally? Crimea wasn't even part of Ukraine when it came back to Russia.

@AUSLÄNDER RAUS
And currently the border stands that Ukraine owns Crimea. Russia's presence there is an illegal invasion and occupation of a part of another soveriegn nation. Crimea is not part of Russia, not yet.

This isn't about someone recognizing something, its about the borders.

@AUSLÄNDER RAUS
Have Ukraine agree that Russia owns it, or have the international community recognize it as rightfully part of Russia. If you steal something and say it's yours, but nobody agrees with you, is it really yours? No, it's not. And until Russia owns it under legitimate terms, it will not be a legitimate part of Russia.

Then tell me, what would ruussia need to do to "own" crimea?

@AUSLÄNDER RAUS
Just because Russia has a military presence there does not mean they own it. Hostile occupation does not move borders. Crimea is still a part of Ukraine in officiality, Russia claiming it and putting troops there in defiance of the Ukraine does not change anything.

Doesn't matter if its not recognized by anyone, it is inside russias borders again.

@AUSLÄNDER RAUS
Russia claims they own it but that is not recognized by the global community. Officially it is still a part of the Ukraine, and is considered under hostile control.

All my 'united' mods aim to create the borders of modern nations in 1444.

Its not actually hard to find that crimea is in russias borders.

Thank you for creating this!! Please keep this updated! Thanks and now i can be a major world power in politics!

All my 'united' mods aim to create the borders of modern nations in 1444. Culture has nothing to do with it. If any cultural minorities in Russia today gain their independence, then I'd change this mod to match the new borders of Russia. I have nothing against Caucasians or any other minorities in Russia.

I think when he says 'united' he means united as in, all Russian provinces united under one sovereign nation according to modern borders?

Just the name sounds offensive to me. It's like implying these territories are historical part of Russia. The Caucasus, for example, was only conquered in the 19th century, and the conquest was very problematic for Russia (the war waged for more than 50 years), and ever since its conquest, there's been rebellions very often. In fact, in the EU4's timeline, it wasn't even conquered yet. So, to me, as a native caucasian, it's like saying we don't exist and our land is historically russian. That's just not the case. I wish you renamed the mod or smth. It's bad enough, that in modern Russia ethnic minorities face discrimination and are fading away very quickly, but these kinds of things make people believe there were never any minorities, and that it's always been slavic or slavic-related from Caucasus to the very far east. But I ain't gonna say no more, you do, what you want.

It's more about modern borders, although I'll agree in the case of United Britain that it's more about culture (because I included Ireland). But in the case of United Russia, it's more so people can play as modern Russia in 1444.

wtf? The word united made sense for your other mods, cause they were about a culturally similar countries uniting into one, but here it's not unification, it's simply a conquest. It would be the same as you made "United Britain" and included all territories of the British Empire.

im a poor soul that does not have a dlc so thanks.

crema is russian

@Aspected
I will give Russia a claim on the Crimean Peninsula, that would be the most accurate way to signify occupation without having Russia start out at war with Crimea and Theordoro.

neat

@Thriko (Feldmarschall
No, this mod is made for vanilla EU4, for all those poor souls out there without any DLC.

do you have dlcs?
in the dlcs they fixed the borders

@Thriko (Feldmarschall
Yes, creating the border between Lithuania and Russia was difficult when EU4's provinces aren't shaped quite right...

ukraine looks horrifying but ight

Well they have control over it, I guess you could add it as non-core land or something like that or whatever to signal how it's disputed

@Aspected
Disputed

Crimea?