Perry - Sure

Anyone else - I no longer have time to update mods currently. If anyone wants to adapt, update, or change or reupload this mod. Feel free

Monsieur Kensai!

Can I use your +/- acceptance modifiers in my mod, Occitan Renaissance?

Ok, it had something to do with the new dip actions and the technology group exceptions. Maybe because ottoman group? idk. Hope that helps someone.

This wasn't working for me. In the diplomatic action files I deleted everything about Protectorate =
and changed the allowed and visible sections on the top. I'm not much of a modder, so I can't tell you what wasn't working. But if anyone is also having it not showing up under influence actions.

It seems actually a good cheat on vassalization - one doesn't meet requirements to get a chosen nation as a vassal but can get it nearly anytime as a protectorate... Then after 1 month one can break that protectorate and what you are left is, is a vassal that you got without meeting requirements for vassalage ;) But works only with nations that don't belong to western sphere ... I suppose.

Not sure what you meant by waiting 10 years after breaking protectorate - the only timescale now is the usual 25 years before one can annex their vassal. And i suppose this time they need to like me very much - 25 years to improve my relations ;)

Doesn't need update :P

Can you update to Dharma version? thank you! I love this mod.

@Her Majesty The Queen-Empress - Its really simple to make that edit yourself. Just open up common/Subject_types/00_subject_types in your eu4 folder. Scroll down till you see march and copy this in "takes_diplo_slot = no" It can go almost anywhere but if you have no modding experience i recomend adding it just under "can_be_annexed = no". that way you have no chance of it going wrong

Can you make a mod where Marches no longer use a diplo spot?

@davidkensai, oh cool. Now I don't feel guilty about using the feature.

sorry, meant to say diplo-annexed instead of vassalised

Gm_kaiser. Its an intended feature. It would have been OP to allow protectorates to be vassalised due to them having no dip cost and low relative strength to their overlord. So i added this feature for those who did want to intergrate them. So they first have to revoke protectorate (same way for marchs in vanillia) and wait for the standard 10 year period, and overcome a small malus for revoking the protectorate status.

I have a situation where if you cancell a protectorate, the nation becomes your vassal instead. I'm assuming this is a bug?

@davidkensai idea for you if its possible..

Either create a subject that works like a trade company and or colony (anywhere) so that we are able to make colonies in areas where they should be cough asia, eurom north africa cough

"Protectorates now get a 20% bonus to goods produced and 25% provence trade power."

ERMAHGERD. Major economic nerf for Provence. Demand balance changes. Give Provence Mil tech 20 in 1444.

I was just thinking protctorates should be brought back, but functioning more like tributaries and restricted to Western, maybe Eastern tech. Great minds think alike, I guess. Thank you for making this!

I beleive in modern english it now should use the pronoun it/they. Her/she is seen as old,quaint or only used in poetic settings. Didnt even notice i used "his"

it was in the base game but they removed it

change "his" in the localisation to "their"
we're talking about countries not people here

I currently do not have a manual download link. If anyone does want to upload it anywhere else feel free to do so.

Do you have a manual download link instead of steam?

Hey man I love this system you made. Keep it up!

maybe name it "new and improved protectorates" then?

They acts very differently than the old protectorates. So if i did that people would most likely complain that its different than they used to be. Also if i remember correctly the old protectorares were mostly hated so i think less people would give it a chance

it actually isn't a new subject type, so maybe you could rename the mod to something like protectorates back?

@davidkensai Disccussion added. Hope its helpful for you.

sure. and thanks again for the help. This is my first mod so i little new to getting things working

@davidkensai I was wondering since the instructions would be quite long to get it working if I could create a discussion page to explain it with links to those screen shots and a download for proof of concept.

Thank you. Yes please send a screenshot

@davidkensai Hey I was playing around with your mod trying to get it working within a zip folder and I've got it working with quite a bit of a work around. I know a mod on the steam workshop by the name of Ze Great Kaiser's Cheat Menu recently changed their diplomatic actions additions and it seemed to have worked with your mod. I think either the update to 1.25.0 may have changed how diplomatic actions are added (unconfirmed but seems reasonable) and so with Ze Great Kaiser's mod he added a flag which allows his actions to become visable. After adding your diplomatic actions to the same static modifier flag it worked in a Zip folder. I can send you screenshots if you wish on how I replicated it so show you?

sure

Could I write it in private message?)

maks deep - Sure whats your idea?

Good mod! Ihave idea about another additional type of subject, but can do it by myself. Can you help me?

You have to vassalise them first. It is possible to code the file in the folder "new_diplomatic_actions" to work in the old way but this is my first mod and its a bit beyond me.

AWESOME! Thank you so much for this. Just a question: Are you required to vassalize them first? Or can you do like when they existed in vanilla an offer them to become a protectorate?