This is a weird issue that sometimes happens where you end up with files for both engine versions. Go to <game folder>/Content/Talos and delete every .gro that starts with two numbers

After switching to legacy pre-se2017, I get an error message when trying to open the game: "Cannot open file Content/Shared/Presets/Shaders/BatchedParticles.mtr". I tried verifying integrity of game files, still got the same message.

Thanks for the fast response!

"legacy pre se2017" will have the best performance, it was the last version before the engine update. "speedrun-244371" is usually slightly better for (base game) speedruns, because it doesn't have a delay before you can re-enter a portal after resetting checkpoint - but you pay for this with worse performance. Since a lot of speedrun tricks are fps depenant, the difference used to matter - with newer hardware it becomes less relevant.

Which beta do you recommend reverting to to play this?

Hmmm yes I did open A1 gate, but I didn't think a sigil placed in that gate could be also needed to open another gate! It's not an issue in the regular original game, so I didn't realize it could be possible in Randomizer. Thanks for the info.

The only green sigils locked behind C are a J and Z, you don't need them. Did you open A1 gate? That's avoidable, like the messages that pop up when you open/solve that arranger say.

This is the relevant info from last load, I think:
01:28:12 LOG: Timestamp: 2020/09/16 01:28:12
01:28:12 INF: Started simulation on 'Content/Talos/Levels/Randomizer/Nexus.wld' in 0.10 seconds.
01:28:12 TRC: Save Talos Progress: delayed request
01:28:12 INF: Loaded Randomizer v20.0.9
01:28:12 TRC: 132 sound channels reinitialized.
01:28:12 LOG: Player profile saved with size 33.42kB(33.42kB) at 2020/09/16 01:28:12.
01:28:12 INF:
01:28:12 INF: Seed: 1746144994
01:28:12 INF: Mode: Default
01:28:12 INF: Random Portals: Disabled
01:28:12 INF: Scavenger Hunt: Disabled
01:28:12 INF: Möbius Mode: Disabled
01:28:12 INF: Checksum: 0DF5FC93
01:28:12 INF:
01:28:12 LOG: There are 340 stats that weren't uploaded yet!

Whenever you load a level (reset checkpoint, go through a portal, die) the randomizer dumps a bunch of info to console about your settings, post those here. You can copy paste them from the log file in "[steam]\The Talos Principle\Log\Talos.Log" if you want.

I am not discarding any puzzle; I can complete all that I encounter. But the modified signs by each level's door clearly show which sigils are inside, and none of them show the final two green sigils I'm missing.

It is always possible to collect all sigils, I put a lot of work into that logic. Make sure you're checking all locations including stars and the tower, and that you're not discarding a puzzle you think is impossible, but is actually doable with the right tricks.

Playing around with the jetpack is so fun! I have one big question: I'm doing Default mode, with items unlocked, but cannot get to World C. The last two green sigils I don't have, are not in A or B or A Star or B Star. If they're in C, I'm stuck, right?

All releases (and some pre-releases) are available on my github https://github.com/apple1417/Talos-Randomizer/releases/

Woop, never mind, the subscription works. It's OK now.

This map sounds very cool, but I cannot get it to install, even though I am using legacy version. Can the .gro be found somewhere and downloaded directly instead of subscribing?

Alright @squaswin, the new update is out, intended mode works properly again.

Hmm it shouldn't be necessary, but it might help, I'll look into that. I have time to work on the update again now though, so it should be done within a week and then you can just play intended normally again.

I went with your suggestion of playing Intended + scavenger hunt (short), but I ended up in a situation where no yellow sigils were spawned, all the yellow sigil puzzles showed as completed, but none of the puzzle elements were unlocked. Not sure if that is an issue on my part or if scavenger hunt should have enabled "unlock all items" as well as "unlock all areas"...

Oh that's actually a small silly bug I was meaning to patch seperatly, but I made a bunch of other changes and it's not easy for me to quickly fix just that. It'll definitly be fixed for the next major update, but that might still be few weeks. It will always happen as long as you're playing on intended unfortuantly, but for now, it shouldn't happen if you use both intended and one of the scavenger hunt modes. If you'd rather have all sigils accessable you could try using 60fps friendly, it's the closest thing to intended, but there you might not be able to finish.

Are there any known seeds for the "Intended" mode? I want to play this map but know next to none of the speedrun tricks...
Every seed I've tried so far has failed with

attempt to index local 'acceptableSigils' (a nil value)

ok

Apple said that they are changing the time for the next race to Saturday at 8PM UTC.

Thanks. We've been racing sundays at 6am utc, usually you'll be able to find at least one guy streaming. Every time we've done it so far something's gone horribly wrong, but that just makes it more fun :p.

This map is awesome apple, glad you guys were able to make this possible, it's been a while since i had this much fun playing Talos
Cant wait to see you all do a race with this map :D

Okay, thanks for the info

Turns out I exceeded the character limit so here's a pastebin: https://pastebin.com/fDr5h9Qf

I noticed in your speedrunning video that you posted... the player (I assume you) lowers their FPS every once in a while.. may I ask why they do this?

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Haha, no problem. In futute there will be more restrictive modes too, which will make it easier for most people to complete, it's just the logic gets really complex so we're still working on it.

apple1417: While looking around in the Talos Principle section of speedrun.com , I just noticed the Miscellaneous caterory of "Community%" which actually has the RULE that you cannot unlock any items and you have to collect all of the sigils (but not all the stars). And YOU currently hold the WORLD RECORD speed for that category. After this discovery, I really feel silly suggesting that it is impossible to get all the sigils witlhout unlocking items.

apple1417: You are correct (of course) I did not know enough speed running tricks to acqure the sigils of worlds A-4 through A-7 without unlocking the connector or box. Your video does indeed prove that with enough speedrunning tricks and skill it can be done. I enjoyed watching your video demonstration, but I doubt that I will ever be able to achieve that GOD level of skill. Thanks again for providing the options that alow us "MERE MORTAL" players to have fun as well.

That's only because you don't know enough tricks :)

https://www.speedrun.com/run/z133p4wm

Default mode offers some protection against softlocks, for example you can always get out of A, and you'll never find a star in a star world. In this mode it will always be possible to get evey sigil, provided you know enough tricks.

Apple1417: Could you explain what the difference is between the "Default" and "Fully Random" options in the startup area? The "Fully Random" option seems pretty obvious, but what happens to the sigil locations or game play when you select the "Default" option?

The randomness makes it fun again to find all of the sigils, because you have to search the bonus (star) levels to find the normal sigils. Thanks for the creative fun idea to randomize the location of the sigils. It gives the game some new life. Sometimes the sigil needed to open a tower gate is on the other side of that same gate, so I need to use the Ghost cheat code. The options allow you to disable all but tower gates and unlock locked items so this rarely happens. This workshop campaign was definitely designed for players who are familiar with the game and know where everything is supposed to be. Newcomers to the game would not find it to be much fun.

Randomizing sigil locations means that you need to come up with a new route to beat the game on the fly every run, which is a lot of fun when you're used to there being a single best route.

As for how it works, when you first enter A1 it generates a configuration for the whole game. Every world has all 129 sigils hidden in an inaccessable loaction, so after generation it just teleports the relevant ones to the end of each puzzle.

What is the interest ?? How does it works ?