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For all: remember well that this scenario is designed for original game. Don't set the lobby in expansion because elephants will be available in stable, which will ruin the scenario in historical and balance perspective.
Also, in original game's scenarios, the teams must be set.

Very good map!

Jaime Les Lasagnes: thank you very much man: i did a lot of work to improve it with Olof, especillay the fortress design precisely as in historical maps.

Perfect ! A lot of details of this battle, its one of the best map i've never seen in aoe II ! Bravo !

great article with different views of the miniature:
http://www.stjoan-center.com/time_line/part04.html

great and famous painting of the assault on the Tourelles the may 7, 1429 by Joan army by Lenepveu in 1890:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Lenepveu%2C_Jeanne_d%27Arc_au_si%C3%A8ge_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans.jpg

miniature of the Tourelles besieged:
http://a403.idata.over-blog.com/0/12/64/13/partideux/Num-riser0007-copie-1.jpg

from the same article a great reproduction of a painting from 1690, showing ruins but great view of st Antoine island and Orleans:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_des_Tourelles#/media/File:Pont_des_Tourelles,_Orl%C3%A9ans.jpg

A perspective of the Tourelles and bulwark, by Viollet Le Duc again:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_des_Tourelles#/media/File:Pont.Orleans.png
from french wiki unique article:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_des_Tourelles

this one from the famous French medievist architect Viollet le Duc is very clear:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_des_Tourelles#/media/File:Pont.Orleans.2.png
you see clearly that the bastille st Antoine is on the left, in front of a gate back, and a stairway in front to go from bridge to island.
You can also see the double gate to enter in Orleans and all the tower precise places in the chatelet.

great map of Orleans bridge:
http://www.stejeannedarc.net/histoire_wallon/vues_pont_orleans.html

In fact Richemont only arrive at Beaugency (Talbot fleeing from Meung to it) and the english surendered and fleed before his attack when he arrived, one day before joining Falstolf in open land and the defeat of Patay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Beaugency_(1429)

the battle of Jargeau (against De la Pole fleeing Orleans this time):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jargeau

old map of Jargeau and Orleans (1634 showing also saint loup and the fact that the town is surrounded with walls and in the south of the river):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/1634_Gergeau_dans_le_Duch%C3%A9_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans.jpg
an engraving from around 1600 too:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Gergeau_-_Claude_Chastillon.jpg

Meung-sur-Loire battle (one of main bridge and fortified city on west of Orleans on the river Loire, besieged and liberated by Alençon and Joan with the first spontaneous support of the Britanny war leader, Constable Richemont, without Dauphin's consent, who was afraid of the sympathy with the british, same race):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Meung-sur-Loire
The castle still stands today (not the old stone bridge, probably destroyed by german bombings at world wars):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meung-sur-Loire
I add just that bridge and castle on the map, to block naval arrival from Blois and figure that battle (where the commander of the rest of english troops, Talbot, were retreating before being sieged and then released by the army of France and then joined Falstolf in the north just before Patay).

In fact it was only the heavy cav vanguard, meeting lot of long bows, artillery and small infantry and english heavy cav troops, leaded by Lahire, Xaintrailles and Richemont. According to the legend, it was a deer who revealed english embushed position in the border of the forest.
Then they were massacred by a cavalry charge, before changing position to shoot from far, as they should.
That was seen again as a miracle, revenging Agincourt and Crecy especially. English never really recovered from that big defeat (especially the death of veterans, commanders and main troops in France). France was almost liberated from English that day and the Dauphin Charles was crowned at Reims shortly after. sources: wikipedia again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Patay

A map of Patay battle (close north west of Orleans), where fleeing Talbot and all the rest of sieging forts troops and Falstolf reinforcements from the north (about 4000 men) were counter embushed by Dauphin's forces leaded by Joan and Alençon (with also La Hire and Xaintrailles) and joined by Richemont (1000 men):
https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/none/path/s663cc1bde8267f7a/image/if02fb952258557a3/version/1473581288/image.jpg

nice official video presentation on previous page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=90&v=5X0UijM9a4E

the real house where Joan lived while the siege, reconstituted as it was (now a museum on Joan of course):
http://www.orleans-metropole.fr/335/la-maison-de-jeanne-darc.htm

Joan of arc statue with cathedral towers behind (nice view):
https://www.google.fr/maps/@47.9024647,1.9034482,3a,37.5y,96.06h,95.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQW9_U9_DSuyMf1ND540dSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

you can rotate the map to reveal the cliff in 3d:
https://www.google.fr/maps/search/saint+laurent+des+orgelis/@47.8984779,1.8933666,74a,35y,270h,44.96t/data=!3m1!1e3

I betted that the main english fort got a cliff on south side! Tactical evidence! You can't make an assault from there, so perfect natural protection on external side.
It was also obvious that the main commander will choose for him the best natural protected location to build his residence and make attacking plans, headquarter.

only the gothic cathedral still stands:
https://www.google.fr/maps/search/saint+laurent+des+orgelis/@47.8996315,1.9095963,261a,35y,39.42t/data=!3m1!1e3
with today the main road still facing the portal named "Jeanne d'Arc".
Besides there are big Jeanne d'arc festivals like nowhere else every year in Orleans in april and May, depicting all historical events we show here with reconstitutions in the street.

The tourelles location, now totally erased like all other fortifications (sad):
https://www.google.fr/maps/search/saint+laurent+des+orgelis/@47.8937948,1.9041954,144a,35y,39.48t/data=!3m1!1e3

by zooming out, you can also see that all the islands are now linked by the sand.

in fact as often in France, the old suburb became the modern developed town itself.

remark that the orleans highway surrounding the actual town follows exactly the roads linking the former english forts: AMAZING! It's obvious when seeing the first historical map: same shape and distances, locations.

i found probably the exact place of main english fort on Saint Laurent les orgerils on actual google map!
there is a ruin with a hollowed natural cliff like medieval gates and the name of actual society is "orgerils" in the right spot!
https://www.google.fr/maps/search/saint+laurent+des+orgelis/@47.8975533,1.8917734,103a,35y,45.01t/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1

so in fact it was officially "Alençon's army" even if it is obvious that he believed in Joan voices and follow her advices.

"Duke of Alençon" Wikipedia article quote :
"In April 1429, not long after his release, the duke heard about Joan of Arc, who had come to Charles VII at Chinon, promising to liberate France from the English, asking that he send her with an army to lift the Siege of Orléans. Alençon came eagerly to Chinon and very quickly became her good friend and most prominent supporter among the princes of the blood. He accompanied her to Orléans, where he became the official commander of the French army there and played a major role in Joan's decisive victory against the English alongside Jean de Dunois and La Hire among others. He then joined her in the liberation of the rest of the Loire Valley."
source :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_II,_Duke_of_Alen%C3%A7on

Sorry, but I must add a new hero and captain: the duke of Alençon (he's even in original scenario, i made a mistake about prisoner time: he was released in 1427 (or only 29 for english wiki) and escorted Joan from Chinon to Orleans and even after and was from the start one of her best supporter and friend.

the Blois medieval map (in high resolution):
http://lettres.ac-orleans-tours.fr/fileadmin/user_upload/lettres/Blois/Belleforest.jpg

And i add Bertrand too because (french wiki quote):
"Elle finit par être prise au sérieux par Baudricourt après qu'elle lui a annoncé par avance la journée des Harengs et l'arrivée concomitante de Bertrand de Poulengy, jeune seigneur proche de la maison d'Anjou et de Jean de Novellompont, dit de Metz. Il lui donne une escorte de six hommes : les deux écuyers Jean de Metz et Bertrand de Poulengy qui resteront fidèles à Jeanne tout au long de son aventure"
the last words means: "stayed loyal to joan all along her adventure". (in fact killed when she was captured by the burgundians in Compiegne).

He probably got the taste of murder in English war like here (we can imagine how).

cleric justice in fact, no matter (140 homicides of innocent children attested)

also known as "Barbe bleue", condamned by the royal justice and executed later for satanic children sacrifice adn sexual crimes (probably a tough guy, he followed Joan untill Paris).

i added a new hero on the side of joan very famous: Gilles de Rais.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais
Not too much i guess.

from (interesting explanation in french, showing the importance again of the bridge: the town is build around it):
http://archives.orleans-metropole.fr/f/encycloedifices/24524/fiche/?

another interesting resconstitution (miniature) showing the chatelet (ducal castle) right on the last gate of the bridge to control Orleans from the south again (and water mills):
http://archives.orleans-metropole.fr/arkotheque/client/amorleans/_depot_arko/basesdoc/4/284438/ori_reconstitution-historique-des-ateliers-d-art-marcel-marron-pont-des-tourelles-le-chatelet-les-moulin.jpg

archeological map:
http://archeologie.orleans-metropole.fr/arkotheque/client/amorleans/_depot_arko/articles/4412/situation-de-la-fouille-archeologique-par-rapport-a-la-ville-tardo-antique-et-medievale-credits-pole_img.jpg

we didn't see on modern map that water (artificial moat) surrounding it (the double gate is justified by little bridges!) joining the river Loire (quite amazing!) You see it on engraving. And on Saint- Antoine Island is a chapel, not a castle (i thought it because of the big corner tower of orleans behind) or perhaps both.
You see all the docks too.

another map of orleans (the medieval one):
https://www.sanderusmaps.com/detail.cfm?c=8856

Thank you Olof, you are very kind.
Must be excellent, i will look.
All right just communicate in private now to not show all modification in public (for more surrpise).
We shall test it soon in multiplayer, for me. Why not tonight?
See you soon.

Thanks marcknop. I removed the inner wall in Orleans, and named the castles (also removed quite a few, so each bastillion are limited to 1 castle). I also added Forst Charlesmagne, and fixed the bugs you found. I invited you to be contributory editor. When you have time and are online, pls give me a message, so I can show the changes, and see if I understand you right.

some details for Blois:
reconstituted view of comtal (after Francis first royal) castle (means 2 walls (one for the town, one in the town) in fact here like you did without knowing it, lol!):
http://www.chateaudeblois.fr/2105-les-4-styles.htm
the medieval town (close to Orleans in shape, in fact on the north of Loire too but more in the south, so not easy to configure here, perhaps making a river (another portion of Loire cut by the map) in front and a bridge can be a solution, i don't know, more realistic in term of war tactic, if not geographically)
http://archives.blois.fr/article.php?laref=620&titre=histoire-et-evolution

ok, in fact player 1 (blue, joan) can also destroy the bridge (not the best opition for her i guess but why not in later game).
you should make a title on trigger (same like in hints) in order to appear in "objectives" and be crossed when done, and display a dialog when happen. Nice explosions but one broken bridge does'nt appear at the right spot.
and just delete the back wall of Blois and add some buildings (especially houses and university) and stone roads to look like a part of a big town cut by the border of the map and it would be perfect for me.

last thing: i 've just read that "boulevard" here in old french means "bulwark" a quick wall with holes in the soil, kind of "moat" (in roman legion like i guess, dont know precisely) made on the south in Augustin monastery to prevent english to pass but was quickly taken by them (complicated all of this! perhaps french teal palissads can make it with some french troops as dunois did, two castles here seems to be too strong for me).
And it's a capucin order monastery called Saint Augustin (lol the confusion (even made by english wikipedia)!)
I guess that the "bastille" was in fact later built by the english (common aoe2 strat) or just monastery walls or the Dunois fast palissad (i guess there are even not lot of historical traces to know it precisely, we are kind of historians here reconstituing the plot by logic (^_-) Great!).

4: no bridge ever on Charlemagne island (west island controled by british) but again a fort, a big castle, not just a tower (as i've said and perhaps an english dock (why not? especially because no bridge: obvious and perhaps one transport ship at start even: can be a good surprise too to have quick english reinforcement from north or reverse, as i did when i played with you, especially fast runing knights: was the wining strat: to concentrate troops on one spot and then another, historical Joan french strat in fact)).
5: can't test the petards (the 3 petards idea is quite good: cost more time and res and again more realistic: must destroy few stone piles) with ai because i can only choose player 1. We should play it in multi.
Again bravo and thanks to take care of my advices. Bye!

Ok, i've get a look of your new scenario.
1: "boulevard" means "big road" so you rather must call it "Augustins" which are a monk order with a monastery and few french monks (can be fun).
2: it miss a tiny wall on the east of tourelles (english pass through at very start: too bad and non sense!)
3: you can add a palissad gate in front of the Tourelles.