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Star Trek: New Horizons
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VNDK8R 2023 年 1 月 14 日 下午 8:15
Fergeni ascention into the UFP - Coalition Jumping
Hi all, please point me to where this covered already if previously reported, but I have an issue where when playing as the United Earth, post formation of the UFP, I an unable to get the Ferengi to ascend to UFP Membership.

I have joined their Coalition/Federation, but through progressing through association and direct, and each time, I am met with a timer to 'ask to join'. Once this timer elapses and I join their coalition, the Ferengi leave the coalition and start another one with a different nation state, removing my ability to allow the UFP Council to make attempts to ascend them to full UFP membership (and adsorb them (and their territory) into the 'Federation' proper through that mechanism).

Is this by design, and if so, can it be added as a not in the Wiki below: https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/ST_NewHorizons/Races/Ferengi
最后由 VNDK8R 编辑于; 2023 年 1 月 14 日 下午 8:16
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Ruin 2023 年 1 月 14 日 下午 8:28 
They probably dislike the UFP due to conflicting ideologies, etc... Most likely you are joining the coalition by majority vote, but they are against you joining, so are then withdrawing from the coalition thereafter due to not liking you...

This is not necessarily "by design", but definitely falls within vanilla Stellaris diplomacy mechanics...
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VNDK8R 2023 年 1 月 16 日 下午 2:37 
I thought that also, but they seem to do it even when there are just just two members of the coalition. Surely a 50% yes vote would result in my being unable to join the coalition?
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Ruin 2023 年 1 月 16 日 下午 8:14 
引用自 VNDK8R：
I thought that also, but they seem to do it even when there are just just two members of the coalition. Surely a 50% yes vote would result in my being unable to join the coalition?

You'd think... Maybe some odd quirk in the diplomacy mechanics that they're happy for you to join, but then when losing the (presumed) association bonus it's enough to tip them over to disliking you enough to bail, or something like that...

Clearly though, there is something there which is causing them to exit which ever coalition you join, so I would suggest using some of the diplomatic options available through the UFP council to boost your rep with them, along with sending them resources for the trade bonus, before joining in future, and see if that is enough to get them to stay...
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VNDK8R 2023 年 1 月 18 日 上午 3:16 
Thanks! Will give those a go.
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