I'll make a crazy suggestion, Blunderbuss that fires Iron, kinda like the scrap cannon but more portable at the cost of a lot less destructive power.
maybe still battery powered since using flash powder would make it a lot less practical.

Counter to the iron blunderbuss idea: instead of firing just iron, you can make incredibly cheap blunderbuss ammo using iron. It also requires flash power or magnesium to fire, though.

the whole point of my electric fired blunderbuss is to be a ultra-cheap scrap cannon that can fire iron, steel and scrap, making it need magnesium or flash powder would put it in competition to everything else that uses magnesium and usually Real Ammo > Blunderbuss Ammo.

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the whole point of my electric fired blunderbuss is to be a ultra-cheap scrap cannon that can fire iron, steel and scrap, making it need magnesium or flash powder would put it in competition to everything else that uses magnesium and usually Real Ammo > Blunderbuss Ammo.

Added the Blunderbuss, it uses both Clustershot (crafted in batches from singular iron/steel/lead) and either Magnesium, Phosphorus or Flash Powder (potentially risky!) to fire, but it can get 10 shots out of either of these three powders before needing replaced. Long cooldown, moderate damage, high knockback and a lot of noise and smoke.

Y'can also craft the blunderbuss itself from only two iron and with no skill requisite - arms for the masses.

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the whole point of my electric fired blunderbuss is to be a ultra-cheap scrap cannon that can fire iron, steel and scrap, making it need magnesium or flash powder would put it in competition to everything else that uses magnesium and usually Real Ammo > Blunderbuss Ammo.

Added the Blunderbuss, it uses both Clustershot (crafted in batches from singular iron/steel/lead) and either Magnesium, Phosphorus or Flash Powder (potentially risky!) to fire, but it can get 10 shots out of either of these three powders before needing replaced. Long cooldown, moderate damage, high knockback and a lot of noise and smoke.

Y'can also craft the blunderbuss itself from only two iron and with no skill requisite - arms for the masses.

can we add the option for Potassium or Sodium to fire? that way you could in theory farm bananas to deconstruct to then use the potassium as ammo?
(but with phosphorus it should be cheap as Mudraptors always drop that ore that contains it)

Also Thank you so much for adding my idea!

Yes, thanks

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Added the Blunderbuss, it uses both Clustershot (crafted in batches from singular iron/steel/lead) and either Magnesium, Phosphorus or Flash Powder (potentially risky!) to fire, but it can get 10 shots out of either of these three powders before needing replaced. Long cooldown, moderate damage, high knockback and a lot of noise and smoke.

Y'can also craft the blunderbuss itself from only two iron and with no skill requisite - arms for the masses.

can we add the option for Potassium or Sodium to fire? that way you could in theory farm bananas to deconstruct to then use the potassium as ammo?
(but with phosphorus it should be cheap as Mudraptors always drop that ore that contains it)

Sure, i'll add both those to the options in the next update.

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can we add the option for Potassium or Sodium to fire? that way you could in theory farm bananas to deconstruct to then use the potassium as ammo?
(but with phosphorus it should be cheap as Mudraptors always drop that ore that contains it)

Sure, i'll add both those to the options in the next update.

Thank you! You are the bestest Modder ^^

I kind of disagree with that, because while both potassium and sodium are water reactive they wouldn’t make sense as a firearm propellant, not the same way magnesium and phosphorus do. I also don’t think making the ammunition that farmable is a great idea… banana farming is absolutely lucrative when it comes to producing potassium and phosphorus is common enough to serve as a propellant for a cheap gun such as the blunderbuss. I won’t complain if it’s added, I just don’t think it makes the most sense.

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I kind of disagree with that, because while both potassium and sodium are water reactive they wouldn’t make sense as a firearm propellant, not the same way magnesium and phosphorus do. I also don’t think making the ammunition that farmable is a great idea… banana farming is absolutely lucrative when it comes to producing potassium and phosphorus is common enough to serve as a propellant for a cheap gun such as the blunderbuss. I won’t complain if it’s added, I just don’t think it makes the most sense.

That's a good point, too. A potential alternative is that I could make a new powder-type thing altogether that can just happen to be crafted from any mix of these explosive components, for a generic "Powder Charge" type deal. Though, i do think that phosphorus as an option does make the blunderbuss fairly viable already, so i'll have to consider a few things before the next update

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I kind of disagree with that, because while both potassium and sodium are water reactive they wouldn’t make sense as a firearm propellant, not the same way magnesium and phosphorus do. I also don’t think making the ammunition that farmable is a great idea… banana farming is absolutely lucrative when it comes to producing potassium and phosphorus is common enough to serve as a propellant for a cheap gun such as the blunderbuss. I won’t complain if it’s added, I just don’t think it makes the most sense.

That's a good point, too. A potential alternative is that I could make a new powder-type thing altogether that can just happen to be crafted from any mix of these explosive components, for a generic "Powder Charge" type deal. Though, i do think that phosphorus as an option does make the blunderbuss fairly viable already, so i'll have to consider a few things before the next update

you are right, I think it's best with what we have right now, blunderbuss is from the testing I did, a viable enough cheap weapon to arm your crew as an alternative to harpoon guns

To complete THG armoury, you should make an explosives, chemical weapons, and diving suit pack

A simple taser that does stun but does a minor bit of burn damage to the subject that is hit but it may do extra burn damage and less stun underwater.

Depth charge launcher, fires a depth charge shell weakly on land but has more of a distance in water.

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A simple taser that does stun but does a minor bit of burn damage to the subject that is hit but it may do extra burn damage and less stun underwater.

Depth charge launcher, fires a depth charge shell weakly on land but has more of a distance in water.

I like that suggestion, I think for that Taser we could have it like an very Tesla Device like call it Voltaic Taser which requires a batter in addition to darts, I fail to find some good desings on top of my head, maybe something like this?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/clockworkempires_gamepedia/images/5/5a/Icon_leydenpistol.png/revision/latest?cb=20150302032136

https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/ltf/ltfoat-b78860558z.120111021134103000gg812ssvl.2.jpg?w=620

like that?