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Drogin (Add me to trade) 4. kvě. 2019 v 23.11
why is vlasov a fascist?
i,m not asking that you make him democratic or anything but....the POA and vlasov where not really fascists if you looked deeper in to the history of vlasov he wanted stalin overthrown and for Russia to be a nationalistic republic with Ukraine and other occupied nations of the ussr to have self determination.

and in 1945 he and his army even defected to the western allies even fighting the germans.


if you want to learn more about him i will link you a video as well as his manifesto https://youtu.be/33vVXUg1p-M


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Manifesto
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Benniotto 9. kvě. 2019 v 0.00 
I'm assuming he's "Fascist" because he collaborated with the Nazis........ What he wanted doesn't necessarily matter considering what his "Liberation Army" was.
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Johan 22. kvě. 2019 v 23.08 
Benniotto původně napsal:
I'm assuming he's "Fascist" because he collaborated with the Nazis........ What he wanted doesn't necessarily matter considering what his "Liberation Army" was.
because everyone who helped the nazis were fascist in this mod
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That unnervingly happy turtle. 4. čvc. 2019 v 15.14 
Please remember that "Facist" is a vaguery of HOI4 to simply describe any non-democratic right wing political groups from the Nazis to the Italian Facists to Japanese government of the time. Much the same way as "Neutral" covers both Centrist democratic groups and monarchies whilst "Democractic" covers the democratic left and the democratic right.
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Drogin (Add me to trade) 31. čvc. 2019 v 16.03 
That unnervingly happy turtle. původně napsal:
Please remember that "Facist" is a vaguery of HOI4 to simply describe any non-democratic right wing political groups from the Nazis to the Italian Facists to Japanese government of the time. Much the same way as "Neutral" covers both Centrist democratic groups and monarchies whilst "Democractic" covers the democratic left and the democratic right.


srry for my late reply time no idea anyone even replied to me.

but i guess that makes sense? but only problem is that in 1945 him and his army fought the nazis in Cezch Republic and he pretty much had his army run to the west to surrender to the western allies.

so....i guess?
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Drogin (Add me to trade) 31. čvc. 2019 v 16.04 
папа гудериан původně napsal:
Benniotto původně napsal:
I'm assuming he's "Fascist" because he collaborated with the Nazis........ What he wanted doesn't necessarily matter considering what his "Liberation Army" was.
because everyone who helped the nazis were fascist in this mod


even though his army fought the Germans in 1945 and had his army flee to surrender to the western allies?

wow such a evil nazi XD
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Benniotto 31. čvc. 2019 v 18.44 
Drogin původně napsal:
папа гудериан původně napsal:
because everyone who helped the nazis were fascist in this mod


even though his army fought the Germans in 1945 and had his army flee to surrender to the western allies?

wow such a evil nazi XD
Let us not forget that this 'army' spent the majority of the war fighting antipartisan operations in the USSR and Poland which were notoriously brutal. So they were certaintly not saints. Just because you turncoat at the last minute doesn't mean it wasn't an organization set up by a genocidal government for the purpose of conquering and enslaving large sections of eastern Europe's population. Like I said, what Vlasov personally wanted doesn't matter, at the end of the day he was a puppet of the National Socialist Regime. Just like Wang Jingwei in China and many other collaborationists.
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