Total War: ATTILA

Total War: ATTILA

Ancient Empires 2.0 - Part 1 of 2
metafa 2018 年 6 月 2 日 上午 4:43
[BUG] ATTILA OR AE BUG??
Savegame: https://anonfile.com/30xeI9e0b0/AttilaAE_Raiding_Bug.save

When you start the savegame there is a carthaginian fleet to the west of Italy.

1. First off, check your current relations with Liguria: https://i.imgur.com/9nWUCb8.jpg -13 from blockading, ok, I did that at some point because I was testing. Not sure whether it was in front of the coast of liguria, but anyway, it is mulitple turns back and probably legit.

2. Set the carthaginian fleet to raiding. It then raids this trade route: https://i.imgur.com/nVadMTe.jpg Between Rome and the Vettones. Nothing with Liguria, nothing. And the fleet is not near Liguria but actually around a 1000 km further south their territory.

3. End the turn.

4. When it's your turn again, look at your relationship with Liguria: https://i.imgur.com/R92PKmV.jpg

WTF??? -27? WHY? Please anyone tell me why?

Try the same again without putting your stance at "raiding" in step 2. It stays -13, and this proves this has to do with that action, although there is no Liguria anywhere where the raiding takes place and it's not a trade route they use. I am confused.

I am very sure they don't trade with Rome, as they even give me a relationship bonus because I raid Rome. This HAS to be a bug. I am just not sure whether it's an AE or actually an Attila bug.

Has anybody got an explanation for this? If there is any I will take my harsh language back, but at this time, I don't see it.
最后由 metafa 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 5 日 上午 2:56
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stevebullpasture 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 5:39 
Being rude won't get you far in life or on messages boards. That's about it.
最后由 stevebullpasture 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 5:39
metafa 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 3:42 
引用自 stevebullpasture
Being rude won't get you far in life or on messages boards. That's about it.

It is a bug that is pissing me off, preventing me from enjoying this mod, what is rude about that?? Oh and don't feel the need to answer, I want to discuss the bug, not your insecurities.
stevebullpasture 2018 年 6 月 3 日 下午 12:56 
引用自 metafa
引用自 stevebullpasture
Being rude won't get you far in life or on messages boards. That's about it.

It is a bug that is pissing me off, preventing me from enjoying this mod, what is rude about that?? Oh and don't feel the need to answer, I want to discuss the bug, not your insecurities.

It's a beta, give it a rest. You posted this same message on the forums.

You'll take your harsh launguage back if somebody has an explanation? What kind of childlike rational entitled nonsense is that? Good freaking day.
最后由 stevebullpasture 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 3 日 下午 4:35
metafa 2018 年 6 月 3 日 下午 1:15 
引用自 metafa
Oh and don't feel the need to answer
GOTHMOG 2018 年 6 月 3 日 下午 11:14 
引用自 stevebullpasture
引用自 metafa

It is a bug that is pissing me off, preventing me from enjoying this mod, what is rude about that?? Oh and don't feel the need to answer, I want to discuss the bug, not your insecurities.

It's a beta, give it a rest. You posted this same message on the forums.

You'll take your harsh launguage back if somebody has an explanation? What kind of childlike rational entitled nonsense is that? Good freaking day.
Harsh language? If you are this easily offended, perhaps participating in an online community is not for you.
Aeternae 2018 年 6 月 4 日 上午 7:01 
Well apart from all the conflicts ;-D let's just put our differences for a while hehehe, guess I'm gonna give u several possibilities that cause negative relations with that faction,
1. That could be a bug, try restarting your campaign if possible, cause I've encountered the similiar problem as you, then after restarting the campaign..nothing happens. (I've seen that diplomatic stuff are quite random each time you start a new campaign whether in the same or different faction that you've chosen before)
2. If that won't work, then you've to build a settlement that provide you with "6+ relations bonus".
3. Or you could increase the control of your family, not quite sure about this (whether it will give any effect), cause dunno why, but in my case every time it decrease below 50% somehow the relations with other faction kindda decrease as well (don't really know about this actually, but worth to give it a try ;-)
4.Otherwise, try researching a tech bonus for "relation with other faction"
5. Alas, if u quite desperate, then try using a cheat engine (lol)

But, in my case though, after restarting the campaign...perhaps like 2 times, well turns out quite good, if you say that's pretty tedious then well I can't say more, cause this's still BETA...
I hope you could find this quite helpfull ;-)
metafa 2018 年 6 月 4 日 上午 7:19 
Hi Jevin! Thanks. No, it's none of that, because the problem is totally reproducable and avoidable if I just don't raid the romans in that precise area.

The thing that makes me uneasy about this, is that obviously I can't trust to raid ANY region now, fearing it will give me negative relations with some random faction I have not even encountered yet. Try the savegame and follow the steps as outlined - it's pretty straightforward that this is a bug. I am just not sure whether it is an AE or Attila bug, but I find I cannot use my expensive fleet to raid anymore, because I want to be able to calculate the negative consequences. It was merely by accident that I encountered this, as this isn't logical in any sense of the word.

So faction A and B trade. I make an effort to raid a traderoute and region where as a calculated risk I will not suffer very heavy negative consequences and raid a trade route of A and B near an area which is totally completely occupied by A, no others in sight, and suddenly I incur negative relations with some unrelated faction C. This is not how I want to play the game, this is which was upsetting me. And yes, it's a BETA but this bug does not make sense, and quite frankly, I am rather suspecting Attila to be the real culprit, but not having played native in years, and before also not very much, I don't want to post this in the Attila forums, because they'll rightfully tell me "you use some mod, go there to complain".
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