I did everything ok with mod, but I always start at small area of map with no other civs.. wth ? Am I doing anything wrong ?

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Does this map feature TSL?

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This is the best Europe map I have played so far!

great work Sven!

Great, thanks!

First version of Civ 6 update is now available here:
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1661699235

Still very much a work in progress, but let me know what you think!

you are fantastic Sven! thank you so much

I am! I have a version which was built using R&F, I'm just trying to figure out how to convert it for GS. Then all that should need to be done is adding GS features like coastal flooding and volcanoes. Unfortunately, as Firaxis haven't released an official version of World Builder, I'm having to wrestle with the dev-only version.

Watch this space, I'll keep you posted.

i agree, and now the latest add-on is out for civ6... you going to port this Sven?

/vote for a civ6 version :-) Rotating the map like this is brilliant. It's the best europe/near-east map I've seen. Actually, I'm suprised no one havn't copied it to civ6 already.

fantastic! thanks Sven... without this map, civ 6 is unplayable =)

Maybe I'll look to have it finalised and updated after the new expansion comes out...

I actually got a good way through making this for Civ 6 - the map is all there really... but placing resources and figuring out balance for those resources gets old fast! :D

will someone make this for civ 6?

No Ottomans...

if you are playing any of the African nations, I recomend geting Honor and Construction as fast as possile, as that transforms thae barbarians from a constant and imminant threat t oa perpetual culture and gold source. Get Heathan conversion and suddenly you have the larget army immaginable.

can't edit this map in SDK, any idea why? Other than that, one of my favorite maps so far.

I used this mod with Raging Barbs, Unlimited barb exp, Barbarian immersion enhancement, Poor tiles tweak and Workable Mountains

Immersion adds much improved Culture and gold from conquering the camps and I had game's where I was being stomped by AI's that had managed to survive.

That said survive was entirely the right world as several nations didn't, though it appears that civs that choose the honor social policy line first are easily capable of dealing with the throngs of Barbs

African Civs struggle with the barbs? So they are limited in their expand and tech?
Great, the boring worldleadership days from the Songhai & Zulus are over! =)

As M. Night Shamalamadingdong would say, "What a twist!"

I have nearly finished playing a game with Carthage, and this map is fantastic fun to play. The slant of the map greatly improves gameplay over those who try to match most common map projections. The Sahara however does create a few gameplay annoyances. If you border the Sahara as a human, you can easily manage the barbarians. This makes God of War a ridicuously powerful pantheon. Furthermore, the Sahara will be riddled with Archeaological sites, further aiding a human player of Carthage, Morocco or Egypt. I think you might have been right filling those areas with mountains before, though perhaps a middle ground between your previous attempt and the current one would be even better. Maybe.

A list of Civs in the description would be useful,

Great map! Really one of the better (and more balanced) ones I played so far. The 10 (or so) hexes at the bottom of the map removed in favour for adding those at the top of the map (Russia really needs a tiny bit more room to expand) would have been perfection!

Sven i think is does not really look like europe but there are better europes but keep updating

Just wanna say I really like this map and have played it for quite a few games now since way back when.

Also a suggestion: move some of the resources near the Egyptian Red Sea coast to the area around the Nile instead. Egypt currently seems too eager to settle in the area around the red sea rather than actually expanding at the Nile which is pretty silly. I have moved some resources myself and have found that Egypt initially expands more realistically along the upper span of the Nile rather than at the red sea which I think is an improvement.

You could also take a look at the resource placement in the north African coast; Morocco misses out on settling at the river because of the cattle resource located 4 tiles away from their capital. Moving the resource to the other side of the river should help things out there as well.

This turned out to be a lot longer than I thought but I hope you think they are some good suggestions. Keep up the good work.

Okay, well, I was sort of hoping for some other fix, since huts in deserts really favors Egypt and Arabia, and has the possiblity to overwhelm AI's with barbarian invasion. Anyway, great job on the map :)

Thanks for letting me know Zuluh. I've disabled that file for now so hopefully this shouldn't be a problem any more. I'm not sure what has changed since the last version but let me know how that looks.

Zuluh, I can confirm farms not being able to be built unless it's next to a river.

First off, great map, I really enjoy playing it and have it in the past. Seem to be the only map I really play mostly. I have a bug that a friend also have, in version 1.5. I am unable to build farms that are not next to fresh water, I am unable to build trade posts at all, and great improvements (such as holy sites) can only be built on ressources. If I remove the dependency on BarbarianInhibitor.xml, it works fine, but then obviously barbarians and huts also spawn in deserts again. Any clues as to what might be wrong?

Sven, i changed the scenario settings and set the game on Standard speed and up the difficulty to 7. I chose Carthage again and spawned in Morocco. Plus, There were only 12 total players. On my previous games there were 22 civs and the speed of the game was also set to Epic.

great map for a historical roman thing.

The thing about the ocean is that the smart player can block certain routes early by planting cities on islands. I did this in the West Med and from the boot of Italy to Spain/Gibraltor. Rome ended up doing it closer to Greece which was annoying, so Carthage may have it's revenge yet... har har :)

I think it's fine to keep the game as is with the ocean. My thing is victory conditions. I'm not much for time VC.

Glad to hear it's working and that you're having fun! Carthage always has been one of my favourite Civs and you can really put those harbours to work in the Med...

One other thing I'd be interested in hearing is your opinion on the ocean tiles in the Med restricting ship movements to the coast until you can get Caravels.

I loaded the scenario and it worked great. I played a game as Carthage and didn't have any issues with barbs that i couldn't handle. I did send a ship east along the coast and saw a bunch of barbs along the horn of Libya (for description purposes :)). But I didn't see too many in the Nile River delta. Egypt should be able to handle on their own but may have not expanded in that direction- game is too early for me to know much about Egypt quite yet.

Authentic starting locations should all be there, you just need to ensure that you check 'Load Scenario'.

Sven can we get a list of the applicable civs? Or are there no authentic starting locations? Thanks man!

Let me know how it goes! I still haven't really had time to test it properly so any feedback is appreciated!

Big thanks Sven! Will try this soon.

I have another version of the map I've only used for personal use which extends to India. It's not too polished though so I haven't published it on the workshop...

I agree with you about Russia's area. I try, without sucess, to made a Euro-India map with the same perspective, that would give Russia a vast area, but cutting the unpopulated north, and adding indian subcontinent to the game.

awesome! wow thank you Sven for upgrading it, i love your map!

Hi all! After far too long I have finally updated this map to BNW.

I haven't had a chance to play test it yet so hopefully all will be fine. As usual, any feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

give us a bnw update!!

I love this map!
Could you do us all a favour & update it to Brave New World DLC?

This is the only map I ever use anymore.

Great map, as the other commenter said it allows for a more realistic classical world. Well done.

This is the only European map i've seen allowing a decent classical age game, it has place for all civs like Carthage, Rome and Persia (this is one of the few with Persia's land in it) whilst not being too large. Well done!