CA balanced it better then? If so thanks for letting me know, I am so far behind on the game (haven't played in a year I think!)

If you want to start a new game it is not needed

Is this still needed with all DLC?

Update pls.

This mod will not work on a new game with the Norsca-update. Only with older savegames.
I have to test how the new update plays out for the AI empire factions first. We will probably also get an update from CA where they adress balancing issues with the new Norsca factions.

Update pls.

Please could you make a Dwarf Nerf mod?

As a fan of the lore, I really hate them having a good chance of stomping all over the Greenskins. They are supposed to be a doomed and dwindling race, albeit with very strong defenses.

I'd like to see them become about 20-25% less powerful, somehow. Thanks.

Hey Paragon, can I ask what the most recent update did for the mod?

Thank you, exactly the mod i was looking for. ♥♥♥♥ norsca and their endless chariot stacks.

This is not a nerf this is a crippling

Oh, its back! Well glad to see it!

Hello !

I like the idea of your mod, but in the playtest that I did, I found out the nerf was a bit too powerful, I use the Better AI mod from Minos which gives huge boosts to the AI but even with that they were not even able to field 2 or 3 armies. Could you possibily make a version of this mod where the nerf is less powerful ? (like, for exemple, level 3 settlements giving around 150-200 gold ?).

Does this work with the latest?

This is must have mod :)

Update please!

Update asap!

i mean they can capture bigger settlements that can be leveled up to level 4 and 5

i use the mod regional occupation so skaeling can capture a minor settlement, does the mod also reduces income from settlements level 4 and 5.

sorry for the bad english

Compatible with "The Uncivilized North" ?

omg thanks so i fackin hate em they are not hard to beat but as i play orc's and when i finally deal whit the dwarfs and other orcs the damn varg or skal own half of the map... the fun so thanks for this m8

This affects all norscans factions also your own awakaned ones, since they share the same buildings. Their strength (or level of being annoying) really depends on what kind of units they recruit. Trolls cost 200 upkeep while their basic marauder unit only costs 50. If CA finally fixes their constant recruitment of skirmish cavalry I might consider giving them more funds, but not yet.

Excellent mod, maybe they could be nerfed just slightly less.

Will this affect the northmen tribes that you 'awaken' as chaos? I'd like my awoken allies to be useful.

ta for update :)

This mod is still needed. Will a new patch appear? Thanks!

Hi, when you can, can you update it please?

This mod is excellent and helped me with the frustrating start when you play Chaos and those damn norscans come for you straight away. And keep coming.

But, I think it also affects those tribes that you awaken and subjugate, so if you don't plan on nursing them a lot to help them get a working economy, you might want to turn this mod of when the hostile Scaelings and Vargs are gone. Otherwise they are no help, and easily get ganked by roaming southeners.

not only vanilla, someone tryed with WIP overhaul?


aaaaaaand question 2,can the same be done for top knotz? cause in most of my campaigns the greenskins feel like a minor faction,while savage orcs build giant empires and become the most common tipe of orc you deal with... wich is not cool at all.

Thank you so much for this awesome mod. I am tired of dealing with those cheat factions.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the single most unbalanced aspect of the vanilla game and you just fixed it.

Thank you very much.. wonderful mod!!

Excellent mod, I wont play without please update for patch :)

Hey! nice mod. Is it possible that you can make a version with a bit more money for Norsca? I finished a Empire Campaign on very hard and they got almost crushed from Middenheim + Nordland.i think they could need a bit more money. Thanks for the great work!

@Rhia I installed the mod and the economic hit forced Skaeling to downsize most of their stacks by about half. Sounds about right for a horse-based economy with no possible forms of agriculture.

I'm at about turn 100 of a new empire playthrough (with this mod from beginning). To be honest, I still noticed quite a few full stacks of units coming from skaeling (about turn 20 I had 4 rock up at marienland). After that initial rush (they declare war on me about turn 16), I haven't seen them that much, but they do seem to be prolific through nordland/middenland/kislen (which I've left alone as my Chaos-buffer).

As far as "not a threat but a nuisance" it has been the case for my playthrough so far (excluding that initial 4 stack rush).

The problem is that the AI has 50 turns to build up and stack up money which they then can use.
Maybe CA will somehow sort it out later with something lake splitting up the factions with infighting or being already at war with Nordland and Ostland at the beginning.
In Vanilla with 10 settlements they get 6750 plus 2500 base income which results in 4-6 stacks (based on difficulty) for both Varg and Skaeling.

The Ai takes a few turns to adjust to their new money situation.

As for Bretonnia, I cannot help individual factions as they are not differentiated in the game files.
I think the problem is that empire units of Tilea are worth more in auto-resolving against bretonnian armies. But I think CA will look at that anyway in the future.

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

I am assuming this wont apply retroactively to any stacks the AI already created?

Thanks man, really helpful. Those guys are so imba.

"It should be the other way round. They should be a nuisance and not a threat. "
You hit the nail on the head.

Btw, please take a look at other factions as well and make sure they aren't getting massive boosts like these other Chaos factions!

Thanks, dude!

Chaos AI is basically cheating with being able to field 6+ full stack armies (and those armies are just in my field of vision... I would imagine they have more somewhere else on the map).

Any possibility you could nerf Estalia? I am getting sick of them dominating bretonia in every campaign before I have a chance to fight them...

awesome thanks !

Oh, thank the dark gods for this! :steam happy:

While we probably will need some sort of other mid-late game faction to put pressure on the player (at least as Empire), having Norsca be this perpetual army machine is NOT how to do it in an entertaining fashion. If nothing else, it's just extremely tedious to fight the exact same army again and again. Oh, and then again and again after that.

Great job and much appreciated - an instant subscription!