No problem! I finally found an alternative theme for me made by pdelmo, so we both got what we wanted in the end

Thank you very much! Having the contrast between the three main terrain colors is what makes this theme look so good; I've been using it it pretty much every city I work on

Sure, I can restore the old version. Your point makes sense :)

Hello there,

Is there any way you could reupload the previous version? I've been using it on a city for the last few months and the new update doesn't work well with anything I've done so far.

Or if there's any way I could unsubsribe to the newest update so that I can have the version from before Feb 6th 2018, that would be wonderful.

Thanks!

Hey @Ziggy_Birdman. I've never found a water normal out there. Give a shout out to OWL, because his water normals (including his own foam normal) are things of great beauty. I'lll see what he thinks about making a little tutorial. THe foam normal looks very different - I don'T even know what the word for that type of texture is LOL

Hey, speaking of the normals, you seen any good water normals? I really wish we had the option to have water with more surf foam like when the water touches land and then goes back out to sea. More realistic that way.

*thumbsup !

Absolutely! This listing right here is actually a map theme that gives you the colors of the US Southwest / Outback, so you can use it on any map you like. The map you see pictured is Planet Andromeda, I forgot to link it in the description :D Good that you messaged!

This map would look good with the american 1900's buildings!

Thanks! I too have heard that the normals are incredibly difficult to make, hence why I haven't tried. lol. All my textures that I've used in themes I've made were found online as well. I haven't done any map themes recently, just a few after the new theme editor came out. Your themes are far more advanced than mine so those videos should help. I may just leave the normals textures to the pros and just download them. I've heard of GIMP, I've used it before but its been a while. I used it back when I was editing photos. jpg is actually a more compressed image where as png is not, which is why you get better imaging with a png, of course you also get a larger filesize.

Ah! Last thing, I think that normal is a jpg. I'm not sure if you have to convert it to PNG, but you can give it a try. Always better to have a PNG for its higher resolution... as far as I have seen.

Would have helped to include the links XD . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNR5Ubarto
Another rock normal for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t07uvmrf766n3u4/Rocks_Dirt01_normal.jpg?dl=0

Some help in making your own seamless textures like the non normals, here's the tutorial video that helped me! I use GIMP, which is open source (free) alternative to Photoshop.
Re: the normals, I found those normals actually. They are a ton of work and difficult according to my chats with OWL - one of his best normals I've seen took him 48 hours O.O He uses a program called Z Brush I believe.
He takes it to a whole different level, so go take a peek at his map themes to observe how well the textures flow together on his themes. Watch the water / foam flow when you hit play (those effects are controlled by normals): Anyway, it helps me to see his work and use it as a benchmark
I'm sure GIMP is more than capable of making normals, but I haven't advanced to making my own good normals from scratch as of yet. Let's hope OWL makes a tutorial video :D

It looks great, I see what you mean about the normals. Its interesting. I'll be messing around with some themes ideas when I get the chance but how did you make the normals? Is it some kind of editing program to get it?

It's a 2048x2048, the same as the sand and ore, as is the planet, too. I want to keep the file size reasonable, so I picked the most important for this theme as big sizes. I'd like to ttry to get oil also in a high resolution that is something else to decorate with like Ennedi - check out his Tatra Mountains terrain theme's flowery meadow simulation. I want to be able to do *that*, that's some advanced stuff :D

No problem Ziggy! Yes, you can experiment / play around using the cracked cliff normal I shared, just to see how it works and use it if you like. Making them is even more of a pain than making sure your regular texture doesn't repeat like a table cloth XD That segues into my answer for Simulant
@Simulant that's how I finally came up with a decent cliffside, trying to figure out how to balance that. Nowhere near as amazing as OWL or Ennedi, but compared to the previous sets I came up with, I think they're much improved. Once I learned that the normal is where 3d effectls like cracks, waves, etc are simulated, then i realized that in order to make a cool rough rock image, it was important to have a high resolution cliff texture (so it can be expanded a lot before it starts to get blurry), a texture that is also very uniform to prevent that tablecloth repetition. Hope that makes any sense? :D

Looks good! What resolution did you use for the cliff texture? I always find it difficult to balance resolution and repetition....

Thanks, I got them. I didn't know to reply to the pm. lol. Im not familiar with normals, but I have seen them in the editor. I'll have to tinker a bit to see what I come up with.

Hi Ziggy_Birdman, I'll be glad to share them with you :) I'll send you a PM

Where did you get the textures for this theme? I'd like to use them to update some of the textures on my red rocks theme.