A couple of these options are sort of strawmen, as the people proposing to cut costs by lowering the number of supercarriers are usually not pro-F35 either, but generally anti and trying to make what they view as a bad situation better, since they do acknowledge the leap from harrier to supercruising stealth jet.

This is a more representative debate for Britain in my opinion, which really did debate using CTOL carriers, STOVL (which they went with) as well as possibly using Super Hornets, navalized Eurofighters, or F-35Cs or F-35Bs on the various ship designs. This included Super Hornets on ramp carriers.

Hi Baloogan, can you make a verion of this where the enemy aircraft are future Russian and Future Chinese aircraft, like PAK-FA and J-20/J-31 and add the Navalized F-22 to the US side just to see if the F-35 is still effective or if that Navalized F-22 was really a good idea.

Archangel is right about you overplaying the cost of the F-35. The Super Hornet is actually quite expensive. Once factoring in the lifetime extention (Super Hornet is built for only 20 years), the F-35C become about the same when comparing FRP.

Send your F-35 questions to r/F35lightning if you want information regarding the F-35.

It seems impossible to save the Ospreys in the beggining, they usually end up blundering first into the enemy SAG and then into a BUK, however what kills them most of the time ends up being the waves of fighters. I usually start out by sending the F-35Bs with SDB-IIs to kill the ships, 3 flights, each targeting one ship with it's bombs, then sending out tomohawks as sacrificial lambs to waste their missiles. The F-35s usually only suceed in killing one or two ships, but then i'm stuck up shit creek without a paddle as the BUK and the waves of J-10s and SU-XXs kill the last of the Ospreys, even with a hefty escort.

Not to mention were not integrating storm shadow(250km) on our very limited range f35b. We need range!

There is another option currently being debated in congress which is f35c/s.hornet/long range drone airwing. See Centre for New American security report by Jerry Hendrix. Aimed at countering Chinese ASBM. Hopefully all western modern navies will adopt these new airwings & keep the airframe air miles of our stealth planes for other purposes than being used up in low threat regions. I certainly hope the UK MOD adopts this for QE2. Cheers.

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Not realistic. The F-35s in the scenario can fly.

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how do you put aircraft on an aircraft carrier in the editor ?

Well over all a good mission the premise that the F-35C cost more relative to the SH at least when looking at over all procurment numbers over time is untrue. Now if your comparing it to the F-18C, the aircraft its meant to replace, you have a point but the difference in capability there is nothing short of staggering. In reality if the F-35 was as expensive as you play it out to be its likley the USN would have procured more and updated/ SLEP'd many of its F-18Cs in contrast to buying more F-18E/F/G. Also as it stands I believe that the number of total available F-35s (IE those that are not in depo and actually deployable) will be higher than that of the F-18s. As aside If we are looking at a mission involving large numbers of F-35Cs I would have set the scenario for 2022 or later.