Have an issue where seduction events are not firing. Click to seduce and within a month it resets like I didn't click it. Clicking the mod off and reloading seems to work but I don't want to get spammed by vassals seducing the wife. Any thoughts to fix?

This mod is based, keep it as is

this mod do be ballin

Getting mad over a mod for the most annoying focus the ai could ever utilize.. wow, just don't subscribe then and move on.

Is this mod compatable with the historical immersion project?

Is there a direct download version?

Is this compatible with HIP?

I liked the mod since its launch and still use it when i have AI sedcution on.
Thanks. Keep it that way. :)

Kony, I think you are reading too much into these traits. From your response, it's clear that you are assuming the target of seduction is married. Lastly, you're conception of sexual relations is surprisingly prudish. Seriously, Wanting sex with someone means you have low morals? Also, you are projecting a modern view onto Dark Age and Medieval cultures. Knut Estridson, King of Denmark and a Christian had a wife and numerous acknowledge consorts. It's not known exactly how many children he had, but most historians think it was 14 or so. Charlemagne traveled with an entourage of consorts and concubines and he was a Christian, and crowned by the Pope. You might want to rethink.

Thank you this Mod is saved this game for me

Thanks for the feedback @pointman. I think that if somebody's honest then they are less likely to hid any affair. If they are "just", then they should have higher moral sense, and if they are shy, then they are less likely to respond or might be awkward about it. This was my reasoning. However, if there are more people agreeing with you than with me, I'll be happy to reconsider changes.

Oops. I said likely hood. Duh. That's one word. Likelihood. Sorry.

Great idea and I agree with most of the additional modifiers, but I think you're wrong to conflate "just" and "honest" and "shy" with the likely hood of success. The only trait I can think of that should apply as a negative is "chaste", obviously. But I think you are misunderstanding the nature of these other traits. For example, what does honesty have to do with accepting or refusing a sexual advance?

The chances of success are lowered overall, but if you have good seduction traits then your chances should still be decent and better than with low skills. Nonetheless, the chances will be lower than in vanilla CK2.

does this mod allow a character to have a higher chance of success with seduction if they have good seduction traits? or does it just make it hard to seduce everyone now and that's all. I like the idea of making it less common but i don't want to make the seduction focus completely useless

in Chinese we call some shy men “闷骚”，that means they are Lively even Sensual inside but shy outside 😅😅😅

Thank you, Archaon. It turns out there were some errors in one of the files. I corrected them, everything works fine now. I did some extensive testing today.

Thought you should know, I'm getting 4 corrupted ambition options in the select ambition menu when I'm playing with this enabled. Took it out and it's back to normal.

Many thanks!

Updated for 3.0 version to add support of all the new improvements and additions, such as consorts, african cultures, portraits et cetera.

Will likely NOT be compatible with older versions!

To be honest, I never tried running it with CK2+. Does it change seduction system? It should work if it's run over the CK2+ or CK2+ doesn't change the same files.

Is this compatible with CK2Plus?

@Lady Crimson Tyrion is not really that good when in comes to seduction, he just like playing with whores but never highborn ladies.

Great mod.

Is there a mod you know of that allows you to seduce anyone within your diplomatic range? I haven't been able to find any. Thanks in advance!

Due to significant changes in the recent game versions the modification was reweritten from scratch for 2.8 version of the game to include all new features.

fair

No dwarf seduction.. have you seen Tyrion?

Had 2 wives in a row go for an old freak that looked like the Cryptkeeper. Of course, they were all executed for their crimes. Glad someone made a mod that fixes this broken expansion I paid for.

And also for finding a way to not just disable the thing but rationalize it somewhat. Shame on Paradox devs for refusing to. No company should get away with something like that.

Thanks for keeping this up to date.

THANK YOU!! OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU!

horay

I have completely rewritten the mod for the newest 2.5.2 version, so the new features and fixes by developers are also active, but that also means the mod *might* be incompatible now with older game versions. Right now I only support 2.5.2! Use with older game versions on your own responsibility!

@dijnnw
The mod works fine with the new patch.

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This is fucking discrimnatory
Now what am I going to do with my
Ugly leper hunchback inbred imbicile dwarf with a harelip? He's been the Medieval Cassanova for years, and now you're saying he can't because he's a dwarf!?
0/10 too much racism

This is one of my favorite mods but I was wondering you are you updating for the new dlc.

no

does this work with ironman?

Well, my impression is that Lover's Pox isn't associated with having permanent lovers or bastard children, but it still means the afflicted person has a mild sexually transmitted disease. To met that's still a major immersion breaker. Too major to tolerate. I ultimately lean toward disabling Seduction entirely. It's a pity and a shame that Paradox can't get it right.

I'm glad it works fine for you as it does for me. It's my goal to fix all that Paradox broke with Way of Life, because I really like the DLC, however, the seduction system totally messes everything up. Unfortunately, at least at the time being, I don't really know how to deal with that "Lover's Pox" issue (albeit in my game it wasn't as widespread), but in general I think it's a rather minor annoyance and my modification fixes all debauchery added by Paradox. I hope you enjoy the mod, and I look forward for further feedback from you and other users.

Hey again, Kony. It took me a while, but I've managed to start another game eventually with this mod, and it's been going on for some 130 years now. There is noticeably less Seduction focus going on, and fewer extramarital loverhood, but for some reason most females tend to end up with Lover's Pox anyway, which suggests one-night stands that didn't result in a longer relationship. I think this shows Seduction either is broken beyond repair or needs huge cooldowns.

Wouldn't 'AI Rationality' be better than Genius or Quick, though. People with high IQs aren't always rational and can still mess up their lives, especially if their emotional maturity isn't on par.

Gregarious is quite meh. Socializers get more opportunity, but they're also more used to interacting with various sorts of people, which should make them harder targets.

I mean that When you are one of these traits, you should have a bigger chance, but I agree with what you say

Quick and genius people should know better not to follow emotions and avoid such "scandalous" acts in order to avoid unpleasant consequences. So perhaps they actually should be less likely to choose seduction and fall for it?

I think "strong" in Paradox's terms means "very healthy" mostly, but I don't see how it would affect accepting or deciding to seduce someone.

I also think that "brave" trait is more about bravery in battle than on sexual adventures.

When it comes to the traits you mentioned, in the vanilla version of CK2 they have the following consequences:

Gregarious:
50% higher chance of choosing seducion focus,
50%-200% chances of falling for seduction, depending on the seduction type.

The rest doesn't influence it.

However, if anything, I would rather disagree with you. If an attractive person gets someone interested in.. well, "wooeing" him/her, shouldn't he/her be more likely to decline than to accept? After all it's the ugly people who would be more happy that someone wants them

what about bigger chance for; gregarious, brave, strong, quick, genius, attractive? I know that you get a better opinion for it, but I think that they should still increase the chances...

Next, I think it's quite important to note that cruelty would complicate romantic relationships more than sexual relationships. It impacts emotional attractiveness far more heavily than the capacity for infatuation, fascination, sparks, whatyoucallit. A fling being one thing, I think most people wouldn't like to live with a cruel person, not even the women who dig cruel guys. (But guys who dig cruel women might be suicidal enough to want to live with them. ;))

Sorry for the 3 posts in a row, but for some reason anything I try to post which is longer than 1 paragraph tends to be judged as longer than 1000 words and blocked. ;)

Regarding Cruel, perhaps let's look back at the in-game description. It doesn't just mention a mean streak or coldness (which I tend to agree with you is seen as attractive by too many people in real life), it says the person is a sadist (I was actually surprised by this, I wouldn't normally expect just about every last person describable as 'cruel' to actively take pleasure in it, I'd normally think only the most extreme cases of cruelty were proper sadists). This is not a universally offputting trait as far as the opposite sex is concerned, but I think at least Kind people should be put off. And perhaps those with high AI rationality should be put off by the animalistic/low-intellect nature of such cruelty as well.