Alright idea, feels a bit standard in terms of gameplay though. I love all the different locales of the points.

*theming

I love the Steel variation of a/d, always such a blast trying to keep the opposing team from feeling too comfortable with their attacks/defences.

I love the theaming, and layout of the map, though the people I regularly play with, whenever this manages to get played, everybody seems to forget the previous times they played the map and gets lost.

I do hope it gets in some day. I have never though of this as a halloween map before though.
Then again, I don't think anyone on the community server knew either, so it has always stayed in the year round nomination pool.

@ShadowMan44 it's a 10+ year old map, i'm sure there are loads of more popular maps since then. but i appreciate the thought and glad you've enjoyed it :)

Nope, they didn't. Maybe next year.

Wonder if Valve would accept this to this year's Scream Fortress.

it's a tricky one to balance, and i probably could tweak more over time if it was being played to fine tune the balance.
the real issue is i just don't really have the time or really even the drive to work on tf2 maps anymore these days.
still i'm glad you enjoyed it :)

of course, its not perfect. the C point has a small clipping error, its kind of hard for red to get to E after D is captured, its kind of hard to cap D in general if red has an at least 1 engineer, and its pretty loud at E. still, 8/10, would play again.

once again, Valve does not add already finished maps that would be great for the community and are batter then a portion of the official maps.

thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)

it works! and its a damn good map.

ok, thanks.

i dunno if this is the right id, but if i open the page in a web browser it gives me this:
id=481718509 give that a go maybe?

most community maps let you type "map workshop/(large number)" into the console to play it alone.

um, what is a map code?

whats the map code?

@::Egan::
thanks!

Really great memorable map!

@DM it plays like steel, so if point A is giving trouble, send some of your team mates round to point E to cap, and if that's still not enough, you should be able to break through with an uber. granted i don't play with bots, so don't know how easy it is to command them to follow a strategy. give it a go though, and see how it works out for you

I feel like I would enjoy this more if the first control point weren't so campable. Granted, I play almost exclusively with bots anymore, but it feels unfun when you can't get through the map because of ONE control point.

Want to play this map ? 72.204.87.176:27015 connect to our server! We have it in our rotation, just type !nominate and select the map you want to play on!

Lel, i played this map like 5 years ago. A Steel map with Gothic theme

Looks fantastic, if only I could play it! Every time I launch TF2 it seems to unsubscribe me from it and I can't find it in my maps list. Aaaugh, why?

I really want to say this is a great map, but I'm just seeing too many problems with the design. The outside shots are all great, but the interior spaces don't come across as actual rooms, merely empty spaces for the Players to pass through.

i always loved steel's style of play, and this map looks amazing

welp, version b9 is out now, quite a few minor tweaks, and one major one: i've added HDR to the map :D

I don't know why so many people are bashing the visual style, it's a nice change from the traditional over-the-top silly halloween with this semi-serious epic castle style. Who NEEDS pumpkin bombs?

yes please!

@Captain Clam: it is tagged as halloween... or at least i thought it was

But you should really tag it as Halloween so Valve may consider it!

This honestly is one of the coolest maps I've ever seen. Hooray for new update!

so cool

Love the stained glass in the church. Looks pretty nice.

It may be confusing like cp_steel, but it works due to the theme unlike cp_steel. the setting is a castle, which are known for their many corridors and they were designed for defense, not comfort.

Visually it's pretty nice.

If only the gameplay was any good.

Ugh...I was never a fan of cp_steel...

Still, this map looks great. Looks like something from Doom 3 Arena.

looks good

"Be warned though, this map behaves in the."

well, what Does it behave in the? ya gonna tell me or what?

why thank you mark from human resources :D

I've seen this map! It's KICKASS!!!
It's a lot like CP_Steel, but set in a KICKASS haunted mansion.
IT KICKS ASS!