Could you make it so Knights upgrade to lancers, then to cavalry?

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Great mod - THX

i guess what you fail to remember is that lancers were still being used by many nations right upto and including world war 1 and for others upto the start of world war 2 - thier uniforms may have changed but not the way they were created to be used in combat - although some were obviously issued with side arms - but this said not a bad mod

@TheThiefLord I think that is not a bad idea.

maybe it would make more sense if the calvary were unlcoked with rifling or some kind of research having to do with guns. just a suggestion

Maybe Make the Lancer Have 30 Combat Strength and a 20% Attack Bonus So they Can be a Good Offensive unit in the Later Eras but Weak on Defense, Or Make the Anti Tank Gun unlock at Combustion. Or just have it upgrad to an Anti Air Gun as they are genrally more useful than Anti Tank Guns. On or more of these Changes could be implemented. All of then Would Make Lancers not an Absolute Joke as they only have at the Moment 33 Combat Strength v.s. CALVARY They Unit they are Designed to Counter.

that's why I was saying there should have been a unit placed inbetween instead of breaking up the upgrade tree and have to recreate an anti-mounted/armor force

I respect your opinion, but disagree. Lancers are absolutely obsolete because they are so weak in later eras. Furthermore, it makes no logical sense for mounted units to continue using lances when machine guns and fast-firing rifles are on the field.

Instead of turning it into cavalry it should just turn into another anti-mounted/anti-armored unit. It's the only way to keep it balanced. That unit path exists for a reason. Lancer isn't as obsolete as you think because it's meant to deal with cavalry, not great war infantry. It's perfectly balanced for that and can also easily deal with ranged and seige units as well.

This is actually a bit OP if you think about it. While Lancer base damage is less, it also has amazing movement, can move after attacking, bonus versus mounted, and it's own promotion tree. They are meant to turn into anti-tank guns and helicopters for a reason. Because mounted units turn into armored units. By turning all your anti-armor units into armored units you are basically removing a huge aspect to the combat versatility. Especially if you consider how many promotions these units could have if you have been using them since they were spearmen.

so, what? cavalry will not have a counter unit in the time it takes to make an anti-tank gun? it would have been much better to add a unit in

Now my Army of Landsknechts will never be obsolete!

i totally see WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDED i thought that would be a NO-Brainer..Guess not to everyone...Noobs??? I think SO!!!
Thanks good mod

and never obseletes

but given the commerce tree, this would, at the same time, mean potentially insane buff to all civs without unique lancers...a tank/gundam that costs no movement to pillage, gets gold from attacking cities, and has siege bonus.

wow...just saw text at the end...makes me feel really dumb...then again, time to focus on unique calvary units.

can this apply to unique units as well? I was really banking on landskenet>winged hussar>....siege gundam in my campaign against shaka.

Great mod! this takes care of one of the last wishes I had for unit upgrades. I hated that lancers remained lancers for so very long. Thank you!

Yeah, I really wish the game had 3 columns of techs per era. That would allow allow units to be placed in the middle or beginning of the columns, and we could actually enjoy Great War Infantry and Longswordsmen.