Hello, would it be possible to get an Ecumenopolis version for the Habitate, there seems to be no Mod that allows to improve the Habitats which nervs Void Dwellers massively

I've never really played nanite ascension, so I don't know. I'd have to play it first

I do wanna ask if you plan on covering anything else, since nanite worlds from the nanite ascension are in a like weird middle-ground where they function just like a hive/machine/ecumunopolis but without the crazy upfront cost, but as a nanite empire they're basically required to sustain and they feel somewhat lacking with this mod in a playlist.

Full 4.1 update is out! support for psionic machines, hives, and endbringers.

@gregoryfo
I have screenshots of all of them except the ascension ones since they broadly depend on what bonuses you get from the ascension itself

Though the machine ones don't really have any choices so they get either a mitigation or expanded benefit. Virtual gets amenities usage reduction and amenities bonuses. Nanites gets nanites from basic jobs and additional basic jobs, modular gets roboticists and automodding

is there a place to see what each choice does, like the city of holograms?

@Anthonest I've been using both together without issues.

compatibility with Reworked Planetary Ascension?

Russian translation: https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3586041677

@wayneofwilson
I'm not getting that warning. If you haven't tried unsubscribing and resubscribing, do that. If you have I have no idea I'm sorry

Why is this mod missing a descriptor file?

I don't know what each option that in "ecs_menu" represents. Can youe tell me? @TzarAnthony

@Zerox
I think that if you use base game ethics you'll still trigger specialized event options but if a civic or ethic is not accounted for, then you'll only have normal non-specialized options. Somebody would have to add more options for each new ethic or civic, in other words I don't think there is a conflict but obviously this mod is not responsible for fleshing out other mods.

@TzarAnthony
Silksong is great so that is certainly understandable. I just finished a 100% run and now I'm tempted to do a Steel Soul run

If I use a mod that adds ethics like Bug Branch, does it conflict with the situation choices you described?

4.1 partial update is out (I haven't added psionic support for machines and hives yet - too busy playing Silksong)

Ah interesting, I pretty much never pick remnants. I pretty much only pick a meta origin, KotTG (which is meta now lol), under one rule, or an ascension origin

I understand.

For me, Remnants is my go-to "easy" start because of the tech boosts and fast Ecu even in vanilla, so I'm always torn between wanting cooler APCS situation effects or playing "harder" (for me) origins.

While technically that makes sense, from a design perspective, I like the greater incentive to pick remnants the way it is now.

I would do the anyone can pick anything for relic worlds specifically part, but I think too many mods add relic worlds so I'm inclined to not do it, but its a maybe on this suggestion

One suggestion -- how about instead of special unlocks for Remnants, just check if the target colony is already a Relic World?

Then Remnants gets special unlocks early (which is strong and good for them) but only on their Relic worlds, not their normal worlds via Arcology Project, and other empires get special unlocks on Relic Worlds too.

@ Dr.Vaфе!ь done, it'll be in the next update

@Si O'son like from RS Arc? I'll check if they changed anything before pushing this general update

im not sure if its this mod but i cant make any agri worlds

Can you place english translation placeholder into folder for russian language, all text and buttons just broken for me

Understood, and thanks.

I posted about the mods I use in the compatibility thead.

You can see the full list in the "Empire Design and Situation Choices" thread if you want spoilers for which civics/ethics/origins give which options

Nothing is exclusive to Remnants origin. Since for Remnants you are fixing your old Ecu which has some undefined characteristics of your past civilization, so you have the knowledge of your past civilization to build your Ecu however you want. All the picks have other civics, ethics, and/or origins they work with.

Unfortunately with how many of the Ascension Origins change or modify the traditions, and how some don't even require you to take the AP, its much better to target when the Ascension Buildings are available since everyone gets no matter their origin choice

It's currently limited to once each for Empire bonuses, so if you build your civics right you can get multiple. Changing that to only per option is a good idea for a setting, I'll work on adding that (and probably make it the default setting)

Considering the second part, I take it you mean untethering the Empire choice from the planet choice? I'm not sure about it. I'll have to give it more thought

I'm not going to add other no-civics options, but I am willing to consider compatibility. You can request it in the compatibility thread

A few thoughts:
- Empire bonuses maybe only appear for my Capital itself.
- Empire bonuses might be limited to one per option, so I'm not choosing (best + most expensive) every time, but rather (this + normal) vs. (that + normal).

Regarding the choices themselves, I love a lot of them, but I don't like how many seem to be tied to the Remnants origin.
- Give choices based on my Ascension AP so that I can start building a thematic Ecu before completing the Tradition / situation / getting an Ascension government.
- Give more base choices so I can use non-vanilla Civics & Traditions and still get thematic Ecus.

I think you cant go wrong so long as you make all the options available. Some tooltip notes about the power scaling and balance of each option would be good, especially for people trying out the mod for the first time.

Thanks! I'm glad the settings are working well for some balance!

Maybe I should just change the default settings? That might be better.

Set the default to no empire bonuses, half planet bonuses, and full job additions?

I have been playing with the bonuses turned down and the empire modifiers off, and I think that is more to my personal tastes. Love how thats been implemented!

I would rather come up with something more thematic. The main problem with the thematic debuffs is its hard to make something that won't make players tunnel one resource harder.

E.g. if you pick alloy bonuses, what am I going to debuff? If its a different resource, you can pretty easily build around most of them and just hard focus alloys. If its alloys then I might as well just nerf the given bonuses.


I'll think about it between Silksong sessions. If you have an ideas for non-district reduction costs, please share


Also my worst Stellaris take is I prefer Ecus to Ring Worlds sooo I'm pretty happy with the Ecu overpowered meta

Yes, please disable the bonuses if you don't like them at all.


If you do like them, but want them to be more balanced, it is something I've been thinking about, but coming up with good drawbacks is hard.


I'm personally not a huge fan of district costs for everything since I imagined most of these as like integrated infrastructure developments rather than standalone facilities and factories. I would consider maybe adding district costs as a setting?

I could also keep increasing and adding more and new upkeep costs. Especially now that they nerfed the ancient refinery, chemical upkeep would be harder hitting, but it still might be too easy to mitigate with the right tradition picks.

I love this mod, however I agree with tipoima. The power it gives is frankly huge (and very fun!), but it should come with long lasting drawbacks, not *just* an upfront cost of some resources. I believe the opt in bonuses should come with much higher district reductions and/or thematic debuffs to the planet. I think the ones based on Ethics/Civics should be a bit more impactful still, but they indeed need real tangible drawbacks.

@tipoima, you can disable the bonuses at the start

It's a fun mod on paper, but in practice it just gives already overpowered and meta Ecumenopoli a metric ton of both planetary and empire-wide bonuses that compeltely throw the game balance into the trash.
The bonuses should either take MUCH more districts away, or maybe get removed entirely.

Update: Moved the mod all the way down, now it works. I'll play a bit to see if something else broke.

So I have tried it multiple times now. Activate this mod, and right click options for ships don't work any more. Deactivate the mod, and it work. These are my modlis and load order, I hope someone can give me a pointer where the problem is here:

1. UI overhaul dynamic
2. Ascension Planets Construction Situation
3. Industrial Districts Re-Added [4.0]
4. Advanced Tech Tooltip
5. Special Systems Everywhere
6. Zellith's Habitat Demolition 2
7. Arc Furnace System Locator+
8. Thinner Aesthetic Borders
9. A Lot of Traditions - 16 Tradition Slots
10. Stealing Vassals
11. Planetary Build Tech Caps
12. Trade for Influence
13. Relic World Flavor
14. City World Flavor
15. A Lot of Traditions + UI Overhaul Dynamic

yeah i think all events have an auto select after 1-5 years, not sure what the timer is but i think at least a year

It does?? I didn't know that. I'll see if I can disable autopicking

Looks like they might be adding support for more situation approaches with the 4.1 update so if I can't, I can add a pause option at least

@TzarAnthony, after a while it will auto pick

If you want a specific result, the situation pauses, so you should be able to just wait until you have the resources, though you have to keep the popup open which is kinda annoying, but idk how to fix that

Not being able to sustain the cost is something I considered, but I think thats more of a consequences of your actions type thing. A lot of other situations in the game act similarly (or like the preFTL leader vs rebellion one are worse because they lock in your expenses).

it would have a purpose but most people wouldn't need it

@TzarAnthony, what if you cannot sustain the economy or you wanted a specific result but didn't have the resources, so you cancel it

Aside from abandoning the planet, there isn't. Should there be? I've never had a reason to cancel Ecu construction

sadly i don't think so

any way to cancel/stop the situation?

Sweet, would hate to have to give one great mod up for another.

@TzarAnthony, when everything is somewhat finished, adding compatibility with the new ethics in ethics and civics classic would be nice (Ecocentrist having more nature preserved, Industrialist getting more forges, etc)

@LesserHellspawn I think @Fenrisúlfr is correct since I haven't seen this issue whenever I played

@MileyMan1066 it should work fine, from what I know Ethic and Civics changes how the ethics and civics work, they don't change the ids so it shouldn't break anything

last time i played It seemed to work properly