amazing mod, only thing IVe had issues with is the pathing for friendly units trying to enter the fort? the seem to not use the gates and try climbing ladders instead. Its a 50/50 chance they try to use the gate.

My ranged units did not seem to fire a single shot without being given a direct order while being in a fort.

Hope the author will also create maps for the race mods available on the Workshop.

are the first level fort barricades supposed to not be mountable?

@The Baron. You jest right? Inner city towers are a joke in game three. They aren't an improvement at all. Sieges in game three overall are the worst of any Total War game.

@<<FSF>>Ranger Forgot to ask, how come there are no buildable towers inside the fort and on the walled versions wall towers ? Can you add them / create a version with them.

3Ks inner city towers were some of the best improvements to defensive battles in TW, especially with all the flying units and characters.

Seeing your mod ignited in me a small hope that you might want to take on creating a prototype of a proper minor settlement, one that has one main road a couple of towers and that's about it, the size of settlement that we had in Rome / 3K.

While I can't help with Terry, I will gladly sit around for the design and process with you I just feel like now is a great time to raise the voices and gather support for maybe CA addressing this, either by allowing for modders to add their own (I think I saw you writing that it's impossible) or by integrating it to the base game or creating their own.

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@<<FSF>>Ranger I am sure this mod probably takes it's toll and quite a significant amount of work but with no other veteran Map Makers I don't know whom to turn to.

As I previously mentioned I had (and probably not the only one) ideas on how to address CA's minor settlement issues. The core of their problem is that they aren't minor, they are large and complex and now CA just 'removed' them instead of addressing the issue.

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it doesnt show up nor does the submods replace anything wthh

This is awesome but I wish it only applied to Minor Settlements.

Could u have this mod work hand in hand with gccm and your map compilation or put this for minor settlements?

ohhhh... so just we wait

@Doomster: Hello. The placable Forts isnt done yet and will release with the Tides of Torment DLC.

how do i make that the button shows up to place a camp. must the mod be enabled manually?(alredy active in the launcher) for that there is mod configuration tool, or is a build needed in cities to enable camp placment?

Any chance of adding towers to the walls?

just wondering, does the AI work ok with this mod? seems cool but

Tested this recently in Skirmish Mode and BOY is this going to be one of the best mods of all time

Going on what @✠ Apollyon ✠ said. Do to how Spells and Artillery work in the game. There has to be some advantage in choosing to hold a position. The forts you made look amazing "especially Cathy" but are essentially in open fields, their not really in defensive positions that limit the attackers methods of approach. A little more space like @corith21212 suggested to give troops a little wiggle room to dodge a bombardment spells would help as well. Try putting one of these forts on top of a huge hill that you can only climb up from one side and give it a really good height advantage and I think you will get better results. Good luck with it.

Would it be possible to make medium and large fort maps for Chaos? They don't have any even though they do have wall assets. Also, can you change the small fort maps to be classified in custom battle as minor settlement battles? I think it affects how the AI plays, and their auto-generated armies love piling up siege towers and leaving their units inside because there are no walls to use them on.

I think that being a target for spells and artillery is supposed to be a natural weakness of a fort. In Shogun 2 is was like this often, and you as a player actually had to partially sally out during the battle which was fun.

maybe make the forts much larger, like 2-4x larger in volume, to help alleviate aoe magic and artillery devastation. it may look less fort-like, but might be worth it anyways

@✠ Apollyon ✠: Youre right. It really is annoying and an issue I could not fix yet. I hope we can find a solution. Its not intantional.

@Yoshi: Thank you.
1. Its probably because of the assladder Mod. Lets hope the Siege Rework will fix that in the future.
2. Some Wallpieces are buggy and dont work with my terrain ramps. The newer Walls like Chaos Dwarves and Kislev dont work at all for some reason. I will try to make the terrain a bit higher or wider when there a places Arty will get stuck.

this was a good idea but in current version this mod is stupid if the enemy gets the victory point , battle is over the same secound and in most cases its better to not have a fort because this just makes you a big target for magic and artillery and the fort dosn't defend you from forced ambush battles so kindd of useless . and for darkelves those forts suck hard

I had to uninstall this mod cause it turned easy battles into impossible to win battles

Played with it some and have some feedback:

- AI is behaving a bit weird when attacking, sometimes even turning their unit to face the wrong way even when it can shoot my units on the walls. This was with a siege when the AI had no siege equipment and I am running no ass ladders so it can be that perhaps.
- Some unit models get stuck in the empire large fort in different places. Seen this in the gates and in the artillery "corners"
- Artillery can get stuck on walls permanently making them almost unusable if this happens. Its quite easy to do this by just moving them around on the walls. Tried on empire large fort.

Probably the best siege mod along with no ladders mod! It would be great to have an even bigger fort though as the biggest still feel a bit small still. So an additional size above the current large would be awesome. Maybe a two layer fort or something. I also think it would be cool if the fort arent all totally symmetrical in their layout. Still this is a must have mod atm.

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I hate to ask bc i know what this mods goal is, and i love this mod alot but is it possible to make a version with buildable barricades at gate choke points for small forts or one tower each side for defense or inside to shot at units flooding in, bc with small settlement forts and no towers its kinda hard to old hold with garrison units only. I did in a coop campaign with a friend but we ended up save scumming and taking the auto resolve win instead. My friends onlyt critque was that but he hasnt experienced the big forts yet those are fun. Also Some units pathing does get stuck on walls just a heads up. Mainly artillery

@glospey thank you, we figured out it was fort as cities mod, I didnt read properly and didnt notice : may not work with MP/coop.

Hi, good mob great job mod but why a capture point like major cities ? I will not play it anymore because it put you in worse situation (surrounded, having to stay at your point) than a land battle.

很好

@Blackshare: I started 2 co-op campaigns today with 2 different groups. Both groups used this mod without issue.

Sorry, disregard...I wasn't loading all the pre req mods

Really confused on how this works. I've installed both this mod and 'Forts as Cities' mod. But in campaign, i still get the vanilla crap siege maps.

Any plans to make it MP friendly ? I had crashes when we tried to use it in new campaign

nice work

Thank you for all your hard work with maps, GCCM is required for any of my playthroughs so I probably won't be using this one. My dream would be if
Minor Settlements (no walls)= Fort Maps
Minor Settlements (walls) = Minor Settlement Maps
Major Settlements= GCCM/unique maps/Vanilla Maps

ok

Ignore my last (deleted) comment. Playing on 6.1.5 with the version from 6.2 causes problems :pp

@Lamp: The Basemod doesnt use mct which means you have a problem with the Fort Maps as Cities Mod. Small Forts only have placeholder scripts in it because they arent used at the moment. Do you crash or just cant use the Mod?

@Lamp
Looks like an error related to MCT. Try unsubscribing and resubscribing to that mod.

Error: [string "script\mct\settings\map_replacer_vmpfortsmall.lua"]:2: attempt to call global 'mct_map_replacer_load_checkbox_ime_region' (a nil value)

Can't get this mod to work. Need a bugs/troubleshooting discussion.

Like does it require a certain load order? Are there any known major incompatibilities? I'm in the dark here...

also are there any plans to add forts or make-shift forts for factions like the chaos faction and demon factions. i hope that the finish product isnt a battle map where you are surrounded on all sides with a small deployment radius

@Romulus: For the normal Settlement replacer Mod yes. You will not be able to use Siege Equipment in the other two Mods.

@TdizzleGod: Yes.

quick question about the placable forts will it function like the ogre camps where you can put them down?

So you need to bring siege equipment to deal with forts? Especially if you also run the Assladders begone mod

Just saying here as well...we love you and thank you for your amazing work! Can't wait to hopefully continue to see more maps in the future too ♥️, this is such a fun and important feature I hope CA eventually consider it somehow.

LETS FUCKING GO

Cheers. I do have more questions, but I'll just wait to play it. Thank you for your work.

@I am Supreme: Hi. It will release soon. I would describe them as a City with a Lord/Army in it. If destroyed, the Fort will disappear from the Map. When building a Fort it will be very vulnerable in the first turn. The AI will focus it. You can attack the Fort like a enemy Army. Theres no Sieges.

@<<FSF>>Ranger Cheers mate. Do you have an idea on when you'll be able to release the place-able Forts mod? Also, how will enemy factions be able to destroy a fort? Do they need to attack and raze it like a normal settlement or if the fort loses a battle it gets automatically destroyed and removed from the campaign map.