@JSJosh - Yep! I was surprised when I learnt how Paradox did with the names changing, I'm still trying to get better understanding of it

Just for clarification, is name equivalency having names change depending on culture? Like going from Henry to Henri? :) If so, thats cool!

Small update with the name equivalency!

I'm slowly making progress on adding new names to the equivalency list. Given the amount of additional names I've added this past year, I'm unsure how long it will take for me to finish...

But don't worry! I will get this done while adding names, the next update shall come soon! (or even sooner if Paradox drop a new update)

@SandvichMakeMeStrong - Yeah this is savegame compatible, I've tested it out myself before and encountered no issues while loading a non modded game

is this savegame compatible?

I've begun testing out a custom name equivalency file with one of the names I've added, it'll take some time as I don't want it to cause any errors or bugs as I'm still trying to understand how it functions

@bokonoo - Yeah I'm sorry about that, I tried testing it out awhile back but got confused... however I may start testing it out again although it may take some time to add additional names to the equivalency list but I promise I'll begin work on it soon!

checked the mod
there is basically no name equivalency which is kinda sad

@buraktekden12 - I'll start working on them soon, currently researching some names at the moment

Can you add Oghuz and Turkmen names

Likewise. I do tend to come off sounding harsh even when I don’t try to

@WaKKO151 - It's alright don't worry about it, sorry if my comment came off as harsh...

@Belisar - I'm more then happy to give you permission to make a submod of More Character Names

Hey man can I make a fork of your mod? I love your mod but there's somethings with it (and the base game) that ruin my immersion

For example I changed the cadet_dynasty for a bunch of cultures to be only places ie Cambridge, Oxford, the goal is to get the AI to create dynasties like Godwin-Cambridge etc

I also added some more dynasties overall to france, spain, etc and removed some also

I will credit you as the original source

Ok thank you. To be clear I read the description and it did not say it adds more names in anything other then the title. It just had a list of cultures. That is why I asked. But the description looks good now. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. Sometimes asking a dumb question can save you 100 of hours in a game to find that there is a bug between one mod and the other 50 mods you have installed.

@WaKKO151 - Just as tilarium said, this mod's purpose is to expand upon the existing cultures by adding new names to them for both the AI and the player's character to use ingame... why else would I call this More Character Names?

@tilarium really out here answering stupid questions helping out mod creators, props to you.

Do you not bother to read the description? It changes and expands the name lists of 72 cultures.

What does this mod do exactly?

@PcJaegr - For the most they are, for instance when having names that include accents in their letters, the same for characters that used such as ð which is used in Norse names, here's an example of ð being used and letters with accents

AD_alsteinn:0 "Aðalsteinn"

A_bjO_rn:0 "Ábjǫrn"

@区 - 如果这听起来有点奇怪，我很抱歉，我正在使用人工智能来翻译这段文字。目前这个模组还不支持中文，请见谅...

中文名字有bug，会乱码

Hey! I'm looking into making something similar for EU5, and had a question about how the localization files worked. Are they a requirement to be included? I noticed for example, like if a word is 1 for 1 the same its still included in the localization. Example ( Achan:0 "Achan" )
Appreciate it! Loved using your mod for my CK3 runs.

@outlander7 - No it's alright, I'll hold off from changing the Finnish names until someone confirms it but I will change the Hungarian namelist

@The_Ramdom_Cheese

I feel like I'm sending so many comments, but I wanted to point one more tiny thing out 😵‍💫

I noticed that with this mod, Hungarian's have their dynasty name show up last. When the 1.18 update released, they actually changed Hungarians to have their surnames show up before their given names as was historical (and is generally done to this day!) I think you might've not noticed this, which is totally fair. If you could update Hungarian to match the vanilla change, that'd be great!

I actually discovered while studying this that even other Finno-Ugric cultures like Finnish (so not just Estonian and Hungarian) also practised this in a colloquial manner historically, though I wouldn't know how to sort their surnames since I'm not Finnish myself... which means for now it'd likely be better to avoid putting work on them until someone who's actually familiar with their naming offers to help!

@outlander7 - Must just be me then given I'm subscribe to the Workshop version, I'll ignore it and carry on working

wow

It works great for me (though I am also using the EPE compatibility patch) and the dynasty names always show first. Do you maybe have some other mods that are overwriting the same files somehow?

In any case, of course! Take your time! That's perfectly fine!

For some reason the Estonian Dynasty names won't appear first, I'm looking into it while trying to learn about how it functions for East Asian cultures.

I'm still researching this new dynasty system Paradox have introduced, so it may take awhile before I fully get a good understanding of it, so for now Estonian names will appear normally until I'm able to figure out how to make their dynasty names appear first!

@outlander7 - I wouldn't want to try and change history files, mainly due to the chance many players who have downloaded this mod may use history related mods, same for anyone new to this mod.

If I did then there's a good chance I'd have to try and make submods to make this mod compatible with said history mods that might conflict in case they change the history files for the Estonian rulers.

(p.s. no pressure or rush for anything! just wanna make sure none of the suggestions I give are incomplete or inaccurate)

Thank you so so much for the update! It's great, though the only issue is because the history files remain the same, the rulers in 1066 still use the wrong surnames (I noticed the 867 ones DO use location based names, which thankfully is appropriate).

Will this mod ever make adjustments to history files or is that out of the mod's scope?

@outlander7 - I've done a few tests while tweaking some files and have successfully changed the Estonian namelist to use dynasty names first, also removed the kohta and location prefix from the dynasties so it won't appear in game

I simplified things quite a bit and if any help is needed with sorting names I am willing to offer it.

There is admittedly no way to TRULY be accurate here, as Estonians never used proper surnames until the reform and this is as close as we can feasibly get in-game.

<3

@outlander7 - I shall take note of what you've mentioned and will try experimenting with the second method you said, I may be a bit busy today so I'll try and get working on it tomorrow morning and have it be done before noon

An alternative would be losing the prefix and having the surname be in front of the name, thanks to the new options that 1.18.0 offers. This was done historically by many peasants and villagers in medieval Estonia all the way until around the 19th century. Using this second method, instead of "Hurmetõiv kohta Läänemaa" (as an example of a randomly generated in-game Estonian name) it would be "Läänemaa Hurmetõiv", which is much more correct.

HOWEVER, this only works for location based names, which means it wouldn't be correct for surnames such as Kukk, Pärn, Tamm, and Saar, which are currently used by the ruling dynasties of Estonia in the start dates. These surnames are admittedly anachronistic, as these forms of surnames only started being used after the 19th century and the dropping of the old naming system. If you were to change the Estonian culture to have their surnames be in front, these other surnames would have to be dropped.

I hope you take these into consideration!

Thank you for your work on the mod!

I know the Estonian culture isn't affected by the mod, and that's fine. Would you still be willing to make a bit of an adjustment to its naming system? Specifically their "location prefix".

A lot of cultures in-game use the "location prefix" system (French 'de', German 'von', etc), but the Estonian one ('kohta') is incredibly incorrect and stems from a misunderstanding of how the language works.

An easy solution would be just replacing 'kohta' what the rest of the Balto-Finnic cultures use by default anyway (the English 'of'). This would be consistent and still work fine as just a translated version of what the actual name would be like.

Thank you for your clarification

I'm still a bit uncertain, didn't encounter any Japanese names breaking... I went through the mod files and understood what it was going for, so I recon their both compatible with each other

@(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Lumpia Lov - I'm unsure but I'll test it out with both mods and let you know if they end up conflicting or working

Is this mod capable with the Japanese Names mod?

@Puppet ♥♥♥♥♥ Central - Glad your enjoying my mod, I'll give it my all!

Thank you so much for this mod, I've been playing with it since it came out and I honestly don't think I can go back to just vanilla names. Keep up the amazing work <3

If there's still any issues you find while using my mod then please feel free to report them to me in the comment section, your help is more then appreciated!!!

@selkie - I've noticed, I'm currently trying to find out why it's doing it, I believe it could do with the localisation so I'll look into that while I run a few games to see if it makes any differences

You probably noticed it already but this mod removes the diacritics from asian (or at least chinese) names, e.g, Dèng -> Deng.

@Yusseter - I've noticed the same, I'm currently changing the cultures by adding "house_based_map_names" underneath "founder_named_dynasties" by comparing the game's default namelist files to this mods own in order not to accidental give it to a culture that doesn't have it by default, I'm currently working on the changes so it shouldn't take too long!

causes clan government map names shows as default title names with last update

It seems the new update has changed some pre-existing default east asian namelists, as a result you may find some characters with underscores in their dynasty names.

I'm currently going through and changing/updating various namelists so they match the defaults so that anyone can enjoy playing without seeing any strange underscores, this will take some time!