Nevermind, im just stupid. You have to delete the charater cache which can be found at the bottoms of options for those who need help!

Yall me and some others need some help with her working. She keeps coming up as null, and me and others would like to play her. (Please help :sob:)

@Vuelle mb didn't remember and told it without checking. I still think the char is ok balance wise

@Loaff4 don't worry I'm working on PLEEENTY more

never make a character ever again

how do i delete cache, like how

u should make asriel dreemur next

Ive been playing her quite a bit, and I feel like only get the super form when im winning the entire battle and i dont need it, i rarely get it when Im in a losing position and itd be cool to have.

when i try to pick her it always says null

Spear swing, spinning around, saviors burden, heroic slash, and soul punisher are all moves with 40% or 50% DI modifier. That is a low DI modifier. it doesn't help that some of these moves just don't have high knockback to begin with, and the ones that *do* have high knockback, are sent in directions entirely unhelpful to the opponent.

@Spicyboi321 she has basically the same amount of moves as other mods, In trades her high range moves are not strong because of how slow these are.

I really suggest balancing undyne, as she has options for any and every situation literally possible. Atleast make things cost meter or something, Its just insane how many options are available at all times

@Vuelle the only moves with low Di modififer is the grab hitbox, Punch goes down so if she hits a punch and the opponent is aerial she has something to reach it (Punch has high iasa), Justice slash has a lot of hitlag (knockback delay) because the knockback is really huge, and I didn't understand what you meant with get down there, it doesn't have ground bounce, if the opponents DI's down he gets up faster.
same arguments to @KrazyProto. Undyne is ok as it is it's just natural that some people hate zoners.
What I do admit is i didn't know about codex when I made undyne, so having no codex guides and stuff is my mistake.
Thanks for the feedback and enyoing undyne, but no plans for updates for now, maybe a patch or two in the future.

I take full responsipility for not mentioning some of this stuff when I was helping balance her
Undyne may be strong but I actually only think one thing needs to change, the knockback on her moves. Lots of them have <60% DI modifier, and very unfortunate settings.
For example, why does punch go straight down, but also bounce? Why does justice slash have such a delayed knockback, to the point where it hardly matters at all?
And get down isn't fast enough so that, if the opponent anticipates it, they can't DI down to reduce the frames at all. It's just a big fest of perfect counters to every DI until they get their burst back.

nerf undyne.

for some reason my undyne keeps coming up as null
is there anyway to fix it?

if they fixed DI not working then i'd use it.

This character is so insanely overpowered its not even funny

whats the cache and how do u delete it

the text she say js wont appear like she wont say the stuff

Phenomenal mod

so i think what would be cool is if undyne had the false true hero. where if your not doing genocide run and you kill her she comes back and basically turns into a puddle. but this would mean if undyne is taking to much damage it builds up the false true hero meter where she would get her health back but rapidly lose it over time till shes dead and if your dealing damage it builds up the true hero meter which would activate her second phase and give her all the buffs she gets currently.

you should make an Asriel mod lol

@Sugrob I agree, that's basically what I'm saying too

Cannot attack when I need to dodge spears. Cannot punish a whiff from the air, cuz she has big anti-air attack. Can't get to her without huge risk as a melee as her basic spear attacks reach really far with small frames. And even if I manage to hit a combo I will only do it worse, cuz' it would mean guaranteed second phase.

I can't really say what's wrong with this char, as it looks fine and intetresting to fight with. Thanks for new, yet brutal experience

The problem isn't really jumping the projectiles, it's following up with an attack after that's really hard to do. She can just spam them and you'll lose your air options fast, and she'll always have an advantage being on the ground. It's problematic because of how safe they are.

Undying state seems to be too easy to get to while being in the lead and destroying your opponent. It's really anticlimatic, unsatisfying and unthematic for the person that's losing to finally get any sort of hit in after being tossed around most of the game, only for Undying mode to interrupt everything (including the prediction) and play an unearned dramatic cutscene.

When I try to use it a second time, it appears invisible in the selector and the name says "Null" and then it doesn't let me play it.

@LuiXee
having to force a jump or roll is not a good counterbalance to her dominating mdeium distance neutral. Not only is rolling usually a very bad idea, considering the enemy can bait it out once you do it too much (or risk getting blockstringed or pushed into a better position for undyne), but jumping can unnecessarily put characters into a weaker position, where undyne can just sin punisher or other anti-aerials with varying frames. also sucks when playing characters weak in aerial like yharim when you have to choose between getting disadvantaged or getting disadvantaged

Undyne is oppressive by the sheer number and reach of her attacks, without the range limitation of ninja, who has a similar niche with having unique DI mixups. Undyne had very large hitboxes in neutral, with multiple attacks that can hit at medium distance with little to no drawback to her trying to block string (no block negative block disadvantage on these kind of framekill moves)

While her projectiles are strong, I believe her melee attacks are even stronger. Against other melee characters, she dominates by sheer number of options for framekill.

esta bug

would love to use this but would hate to fight it, will look out for balancing updates before resubscribing though

@Evo99 the thing is you can pretty much negate all of that by jumping or dodging, undyne has a lot of projectiles but not hard to dodge

My fault twin, took an L against this character and left an angry comment instead of a proper critique. The biggest problem is there's really nothing you can do against her if you're character is melee focused. And if they're ranged, it becomes a battle of spam, which is lame. I genuinely believe you should make it so the spears can be parried, because I've hit Undyne and gotten her in a combo so many times, but I'd just get hit with a spear and be forced to drop it. Even when blocked, it still does damage, as well as giving you frame disadvantage. Allowing the spears to be parried would change everything, and would be lore accurate as well cuz Frisk doesn't take damage when they block spears... I'm not even gonna touch on the insanity that's Undying... My friend gets mad when I "hold block", but there's really nothing else to do when every move connects.

really unfun to fight against. has an answer to every situation even mid combo

op asf, make the spears parry-able at LEAST

for the new players remember to like the mod so we get to 5 stars!

@titophe123 read the comments

shows me ''null'' when i select it, how to fix???

Check out the new balance changes!

@dei hire dusqii how?

@Звуковой clear your character cache

why when i chose undyne , game shows me a "null " character?

@BuffShroom She does have long combo options that's why she deals low damage, if you found an infinite you are probably not using DI, also thx for the comment, about super armor, you can use fast moves to be ready before the hit (considering the super armor move is fairly slow)

@Talk Tuah Therapist the spear throw is fast but easy to dodge and can't be chained into combos most of the time, also is hard to approach her because she's meant to do that

@Ievence if u don't like zoners u're free to not like it lol

Making undyne a zoner is such a shitty idea and concept.

Although the character concept is wonderful, in practice it is horrible to fight against. Like others have said, the frame data on her moves is down right insane, most moves come out at sub 10 frames with only three or four being above. That paired with the long reach and low knock back makes it where the user has to actively drop a combo before you get to play. A friend of mine has found than almost every attack can be chained into a touch of death, and yes this is counting for bursting. All in all, wonderful character but horribly broken. We tried Undyne on Deo, Toji, Heion, Disgraced Chef, Lorde, Ninja, and Wrath. 3 rounds each, but it seems attacks that have a form of super armor is her weakness. I hope this gets patched because Undyne is fun to play

fix the green soul mode it just breaks the game

Could probably use a tad more damage. Really amazingly fun and well made mod though, and I could be suffering from modded character powercreep.