good luck on your modding man.This is a small but big improvement to playing as Mycenae. Get rid of the infighting and move to war with the Trojans.

Hi!) I will be very glad for your help, connected with changing the campaign map (startpos). Unfortunately I am not strong in changing and editing the campaign map, I will be very glad for your help.

what about a mod in total war pharoah set during the persian wars of 400s bc or pelopenesian wars of 400s bc or the gothic invasions in 200s ad/ 400s ad

can you make a united Egypt by ramsis

No update

Hey

Is there an update?

Oh praise. I was wanting to have a full on empire war without having to wait 100 turns

Yes I will United Egypt mod too

FINALLY!

I always wanted a mod like this

Could you make an United Egypt and United Mesopotamia?

You could combine this mod with Agony and holding banners and stuff!

Love this, would be amazing to make a full pack of all the united empires like the ones you mentioned! thank you

What does it matter if in the end people can see what the mod offers and then enjoy it. :)

@JarlRagnar793 - Cultural discussion and suggestions are good - some people might have a problem with a "historically accurate mod" phrase. But something like "unified empires start" should be implemented in Pharaoh's campaign customization options by default instead of "random positions" tbh. CA is no longer supporing this game so only modders can deliver that now.

Euro-Centric Military Historian this is fantastic work, I think a continuation to have the same thing done for other major factions as well would be a sweet idea to just have a full on ancient bronze age world war.

Basileus_PL I don't care that much either way I just cant stand how there is always that one person who feels the need to put there 2 cents in as if they are attempting to debunk an argument like they are some kind of history professor. The modder didn't create this mod to have a history debate. However in regards to whether or not there was an actual Mycenaean empire does not matter to me.

@Euro-centric - Thanks for this mod! It's great to see some players will have alternative starting positions with unified cultures/empires. Personally, I think you should change Mycenae to be the wanax of the Aegeans instead of Troy and make the other Mycenaean factions vassals of king Agamemnon. I also hope you will enjoy exploring the history of the Bronze Age in future! It's realy cool historical period :)

That doesn't mean that Mycenaeans weren't unified at short period of time, at least for temporary goals like the sack of Troy (Hittite archives confirm that "Ahhiyawa" - Achaeans - were one of the major political powers), but we should consider them rather as a loose federation of warrior(?) kings centered around the strongest and most prestigious among them. (part 2/2)

JarlRagnar793 - Kelly is right. Also, one of the stronger pieces of evidence for why there was no centralized "Mycenaean Empire" is the lack of royal inscriptions and monuments of kings known from real empires of the Bronze Age. Linear B writings are mostly about trade deals and palatial inventories; there are no royal chronicles or any other forms of royal propaganda texts to legitimize a wanax (king) discovered by archaeologists - that's also the reason why we are even lacking names of kings from Bronze Age Greece and are forced to refer to Homer's poems, mythology written centuries later, and traditions known to historians of Classical Greece (or ignore them and pray that we will find something more). (part 1/2)

let me guess Kelly Too Sweet, You would happen to know what the facts are right, because you actually have evidence?

@Euro-centric; Unfortunately Schliemann and his obsession with Homer have caused a lot of long lasting misconceptions.

I'm no specialist at this era, I just thought it'd be cool to see a mod where Mycenean factions get united. As far as I'm aware, the Mycenean state and it's King were the primary rulers of much of Greece at this time.

@Euro-centric; Yes, sure late Helladic 'Mycenean culture' was throughout this region, but unlike the other factions you mentioned representing as unified, there's no historical basis for a unified Greece in this period. The other factions are representing actual empires; whereas, this is representing a culture?

It's a historically accurate representation of Myceane culture

@spqr; I never said it cant be fun. I am just commenting bc the author states twice in the description that its "historically accurate mod" - which is simply not true and you can make a fun mod like this without misleading people with misinformation.

who cares if its historically accurate, Kelly too Sweet is a killjoy

Hello

It's upto the player to disband many of the initial Mycenean starting armies, as the assembly kit has not been developed sufficiently for me to do this myself.

I tried to make this mod historically accurate by representing the Mycenean State as a unified League.

The Myceneans starts with -16000 of foods! It's impossible!

Lmao "historically accurate mod scenario" there is zero evidence of Mycenaean unification.

as much as we both (and many others) would absolutely love for that to happen,it is a bit unlikely. Now, our best bet is for a mod centered around that era with all the factions of the era for TW Pharaoh (preferably dynasties). That would be a good idea, i think. It would be a huge project with many things to think about and replace,adjust and create but its the closest we've got. Long term though, sure. A successor TW game could cover it

Yes it's a good idea. I hope one of the successor TW games covers the period you mentioned.

would be nice if there was a late 5th-early 4th century BC adaptation of the map in this game with the persians ,the greeks, the peloponnesian war, cyrus the younger, the egyptian rebellion(412) and so on,generally a 430-370 BC style campaign,wouldnt you agree?

More like one historical interpretation, the version where Mycenae is an unitary Kingdom and not an hegemony or leader of an League. :D But in this period we often have too little evidence to say bu or ba about lots of things, including the internal political structure Ahhiyawa.

Anyhow cool mod, I tried it quickly with my Flavour pack and it works with it, at least from what I can tell :). I'm thinking of starting my next campaign with this mod enabled :)