Lordlynel I tried to use the Beak code originally but it caused problems that I couldn't figure out. This mod is a rework of the Stinger mutations instead. Yes it doesn't make sense, consider it a balancing cost of choosing the mutation.

Why do the fangs block face gear? Given the precedent set by beak, wouldn't it make more sense to just not be able to attack with fangs while wearing face gear?

plyn-syt I am still considering this (or a form of it), just haven't had the time yet.

Certainly! But, it would also give you compatibility with two-headed, or it's variants added with that mod. (Up to 9 with hydra-headed.) At the moment the fangs only seem to spawn on your first head, which is how Horns functions in the base game as well. It will just assure that no matter how you get a new head, it's fanged.

plyn-syt, I could probably achieve this by looking at that mod's code. Keep in mind that Fangs only go on faces, so you'd have to hope you rolled lucky when you grow more limbs.

I was wondering if you had any plans to, or had considered making this function like the improved Horns mutation from Improved Mutations. I'm not sure what coding magic was used, but even if you grow new chimeric heads, their version of Horns will spawn on every new head granting you an entirely new weapon. It would make for some truly monstrous chimeras.

Thanks everyone for the feedback and direction. Your input helped make something great.

Consider checking out my other mod, and feel free to reach out if you have a mod idea you want to see implemented.

Feels good to me now; the point difference gives a reason to pick it (other than flavour) over the tail, and that's really all it needs. Well done and thank you <3

danke

All,

Paralyzing and Confusing variants have been added.

Let me know if you discover any issues that I could not. Enjoy!

Baron von Dapper, I can absolutely do this. I'll roll it out within a day or so.

Is there any possibility of you adding an additional variant for paralyzing and confusing venom?

Wakko, I suppose it doesn't make sense to make this exclusive. I have removed the restriction.

No stinger and fangs? :(((

Doe, I have reduced the mutation cost from 4 to 3. I have also updated the description above to mention that this will prevent extra attacks with Beak, but this is based on reading the wiki and I haven't tested to see what happens when both mutations are chosen. Let me know what you think!

Horns also cost 4pts and lose a slot, but compensate with a good AV bonus, slightly higher damage, and a good hit bonus. Keeping fangs as more of a support attack with a strong dot is cool, it just needs anything to prevent the comparison with the poison stinger?

I'm sad to hear it couldn't be made to work like the beak! Bumping it down to 3pts and calling it a day is probably good enough, but you could also toss in a secondary function? A non-scaling L1 version of the Snapjaws' "Heightened Smell"? A small but scaling resistance to poison and/or diseases?

Excited to see what you come up with <3

Doe, this is the feedback I like to receive.

Firstly, I tried making it slotless like the Beak but that messed up the way the activated ability checks for equipped fangs (also, the Stinger isn't slotless, it just creates its own dedicated slot).

I'd have to read a lot more of Qud's code to try that again, and it might be messy and create more issues. I'm more open to cost reduction or a buff: I could increase bite damage, poison damage/duration, or reduce ability cooldown. Any ideas?

I'd suggest making this slotless like the stinger, or making it significantly cheaper to compensate for the loss of a face slot; as it is, it's hard to justify over stinger, and almost feels like a defect. Either make it slotless or buff it somehow?

Love the mod otherwise though, and would love to use it more!

I'm noticing that during new world generation, the game is attempting to give this mutation to legendary creatures without faces (e.g. leeches). This currently fails silently and I'm not sure if said creatures are actually gaining the Bite activated ability. I am tempted to copy the logic from Stinger that adds a tail--or in this case, a face, when it is not already present.

I made this so that I could make a "lizard man" playable subtype, which is now public:
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3404948224

The Fangs are now a Short Blade type. Have fun stacking bleeds and poison.

Thanks for the suggestion, TheWelp. I assume you mean the on-crit bleeding effect that Short Blades have is a buff. I will consider this and possibly make the change tonight or tomorrow.

Make it count as a short blade (like other fangs) and I think that could actually be considered a buff.

I didn't realize that this blocks face gear until after upload--sorry for any confusion. Descriptions have been updated. Since this now gives a disadvantage over the Poison Stinger, I am considering how to give it a small buff.

Thinking maybe reducing the cooldown on the activated ability slightly, or increasing the chance to bite as an extra attack. Recommendations welcome.