Heavily broken on build 42.13

I get double information for some skills when ni traits selection. Example for whittler : it says +2 carving twice, mason says +2 masonry twice, gardener says +1 gardening twice etc

@Jacaré

The mod only works in Build 42.

Works for build 41.76? I tried without success!

Edit: It was a bug report that I saw, saying that the Desensitized trait was acting only 85% effective. I dug deeper and saw that the bug was patched in 42.1.1. My mistake!

I can't find the dev diary itself anymore. Also I noticed that the Vet get's stressed when outside combat too long, with combat reducing stress gained this way. This was noticed without mods. I don't know if there's anything about this as well, i haven't seen anything

@Nyxborne

Release B42, panic was indeed nerfed for Desensitized.

This is from the very first patch B42.1.0:

- Characters with the Veteran occupation/Desensitized trait, should be completely immune to panic.

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/78311-4210-unstable-released/

Couldn't find anything new, but maybe I missed it somewhere. Can you provide the dev-diary?

So the Veteran is no longer immune to Panic. It was stated in a dev-diary that it was nerfed, so it's not Immune anymore.

@Jaxx - pshoooo

Not too sure what you are asking, according to the previous comment, you should be able to move the mod above SOTO in the load order to fix whatever issue you are experiencing.

In case you are asking for the mod to somehow be higher by default on the mod load order, I don't believe that's possible.

Again, this mod is quite literally just a .txt file. The mod SOTO states in its own description to be incompatible and/or have issues with mods that affect traits/occupations.

with build 42's order sorting priorities, can you just enable it being higher than SOTO to fix this for players?

@Smiley Face Killer

This mod is, in essence, nothing more than a translations file (.txt) override.

Directly obtained from [B41/B42] Simple Overhaul: Traits and Occupations (SOTO) :

SOTO may work bad or be incompatible with next mods:
- any mods which changes vanilla traits and occupations

Thanks for sharing a potential fix though!

I'm in 42.12.1 running both Soto and Evolving Traits mods. This mod was one of the few mods that were absolutely tanking my UI, couldn't use escape button or it'd wig out hard.

To fix that issue, I just moved it above Soto and Evolving Traits in the mod load order. So if anyone's having issues, try that. Hope it helps.

@魔法怎么失灵了？

Just tested the mod in Build 42.12.1, no issues.

Please verify that you aren't using any other mods that affect traits/professions.

B42.12 dont work

Can second that "Best Lockpicking" is a mod that causes trait info duplication.

@egeesen07, rica ederim

@Jetmax937 i should have mentioned its about the duplication of trait info that people keep having thinking this mod is the one responsible for it (which is not)

@GFreenD

I have no idea what you are talking about, but did a quick search and "SecretZ Operations" is for B41, this mod is for B42.

ive done some testing with my mod list and in my case there was 2 culprit mods responsible for it
SecretZ Operations and the best lockpicking

aw man im in i presume 41 since ive just started this game after like 3 years of not playing

@theygotmyasstheygotmyass

Just tested the mod in Build 42.10, no issues.

Assuming that you are indeed in the unstable branch (Build 42.X Beta) of the game, try uninstalling the mod manually deleting the following folder:

\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\3387957272

If you are not in the unstable branch, then the mod wont appear anywhere, since its not supported.

this mod does not appear anywhere in the mods menu no matter how many times i uninstall and reinstall...

in TR Turkish ty.

@Sneezingprince

I don't know how that mod integrates its descriptions, but it shouldn't cause any issues.

There is no reason to use both mods though, many descriptions will be duplicated or very similar.

Is this mod compatible with "More Description for Traits"?

@Albert

Couldn't replicate the issue with the mod.

Baseball player only gives +1 Long blunt.

Please verify that you aren't using any other mods that affect traits/professions.

when looking at the traits, the traits that give you +X/-X levels into skill shows multiple times but doesn't give extra for example:

Baseball player
Knowledge:
- Carve bat

+1 Long blunt
+1 Long blunt

@melodelic

Just tried the mod in B42.8, couldn't find any errors or weird things at all.

B42.8 changed some stuff with traits, so please verify that you aren't using any other mods that affect traits/professions.

I don't know what broke it, but it throwing an error and doing weird things while creating a character in 42.8.0.

Спасибо за русский перевод. Ну и конечно же автору мода

WOWIEE!!

@Loccatpowersdog

"This is just a code snippet, the rest of the code has been cut out for readability reasons."

They are not the two main variables nor the only traits that affect trip chance.

Clumsy was kept to show an example of a trait that affects the trip chance negatively.

Don't really do code other than simple edits, but looks like maybe the two main variables it checks for Vaulting is if you have Clumsy/Graceful and Fitness values; very interesting and thanks for the reply!

I wonder where this possible misinformation is coming from? Maybe someone did tests that showed there is a Graceful bug or read some patchnotes and got confused? Either way thanks again for some strong clues here.

@Loccatpowersdog

The trip chance was obtained from the following file:

Project Zomboid\zombie\ai\states\ClimbOverFenceState.java
(If you want to verify this for yourself, you will need to decompile it first)

Line 485:

private boolean shouldFallAfterVaultOver(IsoGameCharacter var1) {
if (var1 instanceof IsoPlayer && !((IsoPlayer)var1).isLocalPlayer()) {
return ((IsoPlayer)var1).networkAI.climbFenceOutcomeFall;
} else if (DebugOptions.instance.Character.Debug.AlwaysTripOverFence.getValue()) {
return true;
} else {
float var2 = 0.0F;

if (var1.Traits.Clumsy.isSet()) {
var2 += 10.0F;
}

if (var1.Traits.Graceful.isSet()) {
var2 -= 10.0F;
}

var2 -= (float)var1.getPerkLevel(PerkFactory.Perks.Fitness);
return (float)Rand.Next(100) < var2;
}
}

This is just a code snippet, the rest of the code has been cut out for readability reasons.

Are we 100% sure about the Graceful trait now? Like is this listed in the files/debug mode somewhere or tested for sure?

I prefer this mod over a very similar one but both have the chance to trip % while I'm also reading/seeing conflicting reports about build 42 Graceful being foostep loudness ONLY?

Ah, pardon me, after checking again, look like mod list sorting overwrite a trait mod i use and reverse the vanilla trait back to normal some how, this one on me, change order and it work now, sr about that

@karolcia

If I remember correctly, Corpse Grapple Effectiveness affects the chance of successfully grabbing a corpse and the dragging speed.

@Quilava

Still havent updated the mod with the Build 42.3 changes, since its only a couple of recipes being added.

What do you mean with "the trait description doesnt show much"? The mod still works in Build 42.3

and i want to ask is "+10% Corpse grapple effectiveness" the speed of how fast u drag a zombie body?

oh ok i thought it might be some kind of mistake or something

Ah ... now that im noticed, the game is now B42.3, you may want to update the tag, no wonder the trait description doesnt show much

@karolcia

Polish translation is missing Build 42.1 changes.

"Removed MakeSlugTrap from the Farmer profession bonus recipes; that recipe/item/mechanic didn't manage to make it into the game."

Mod change notes has the list of occupations/traits that were updated.

im working on polish translation and ive found something that isnt in english version.

In polish there are 8 things pointed out as knowledge for farmer. (line 12)
In english there are 7 things pointed out as knowledge for farmer.
im confused.

The mod is available in the following languages:

Must have mod :D Would love to see that also for skill levels

@I don't believe you.

Reluctant Fighter (Pacifist) does not affect maintenance in B42.

I think the description for Reluctant Fighter is missing maintenance?

@ATKToast

The mod only works in Build 42.

This isn't working on my server? Both the MOD ID and name are in the correct place and all other mods are functioning properly but this one is not any ideas?

@Luna {ODST}

I havent had the time to update 42.1 patchnotes yet, will do soon!