the Hunter national spirit that both give one ivory to homeland only give one ivory together instead of each, I got swift Hunters second so I'm not sure if that one is broken or them together

I like the idea of balancing the national spirits. Not sure that I agree with your assesment of what is needed to be nerfed though. Just like some one else commented, nerfing hunters and mound builders is abit strange. I mean if a player really want to min max they go for raiders. a few improvement point here and there or five new cities and tens of troops for free. I mean the raider spirit is insane :) You pick that and just steam roll any AI that is close.

I would try to think when balancing. That all spirits should make alot of difference in the age it is playing, some difference in coming ages and a little difference in the far future ages. All should give some help in defence and/or attack.
That is my two cents anyway

I found the error, line 207 of godking xml, I changed it to:

TriggerOnEntityCreateType-B_TILEIMP_STONECUTTER-TOH_STONECUTTER_BUFF

I'm using your mod as base for my own NS overhaul (not published), hope you don't mind.

I will look into that. Thank you !

Under God King, stonecutter +1 to improvement points seems to only work for already built improvements. Newly built ones doesn't get the +1 for some reason

Deleting improvement points from some of the National Spirits means I won't play your versions of those National Spirits. The damage coming from that is lethal in my eyes.

Great work!

Can you make a little mod for National Spirits Age 6 "Commanders-Grognards" , please!

From this one:

UnitPromotionXPTable,10:20:30:40:50 to UnitPromotionXPTable,10:20:30:40:50:60

StatCombatXPMax,ADD,20

As the Mound Builders are quite literally named after their unique improvement, I figured I would make sense to make their ideals all about it.
But I have also noticed the dilemma of the whole national spirit falling off once the mounds stop being useful.
To counter this I would have to come up with some new permanent bonus for them, since the original 50% food requirement was far too powerful, the 50% discount to farms never seemed to make much sense for them thematically, and the +1 level to all regions was as useless as they come.

Neat! Sorry if I came off as brash. Can you explain your reasoning for how the MBs work now? They seem a bit scattershot to me, and will eventually get completely superceded by tech. They bring nothing to the table but a bit of quality of life to the early game, then some faster grassland development once the mounds themselves are irrelevant. I suppose that +1 engineering mana really is that useful, which I won't disagree with.

Thank you for making me aware of the innovation-problem.
I have updated the mod with a fix and also lowered the hunters culture bonus to hunting camps from 0.5 to 0.3 and the production bonus to bone and ivory from 2 to 1 (which can now only be turned into 0.2 improvement points instead of 0.4).

Huh. I see in the files that the Wild Hunters' innovation is supposed to add food to meat, not culture, but I still get culture from mine.

So did you miss the Wild Hunters innovation still giving 1 culture from meat? Cause, uh, turning improvement points into production just means you get to build more -and- turn it into IP when needed. WH seems to have gotten a massive boost, while Mound Builders get three kinda lame tile improvements that do a whole bunch of very little.

Hmmm, not sure if I would have made the same kind of changes. My biggest problem with the base game NS is that some help you a lot to get the required XP, while others don't at all.

Absolutely ! Im planning to go through all 4 ages of National Spirits.

Some great stuff! Are you also considering rebalancing later national spirits?

Thank you!

The mod should work fine with Update 7, as the Machinery National Spirit seems to be the only change to National Spirits in the update.

Will this need updating for the patch that just came out today?

Decent overall changes.

Lots of neat stuff in here, looking forward to more!