This.
Sorry for bothering you in the first place. I didn't realize that such simple of a mod that's also quite unrelated to gameplay could cause this (and many other) problems. Just downloaded it without much thought
Figured it out a while ago, just kept forgetting to let whoever might face this here know

@Lombaxtard np. but nah that shouldnt happen from what i'm understanding at least for this mods case. i do remember passive tank adds a bunch of other stuff so im not entirely sure what could be causing the random horde to spawn and random horde shouldn't lock tempo. what it should be doing is like disabling the horde (i dont remember if theres a setting to turn off horde in vanilla) or putting the timer to like 999 or something.

why don't you try putting all ur modpack in a collection then unsubscribe and try only subscribing my mod and the no random horde mod and see if it still happens. cuz if it does, then its def my mod and if not then its something in ur modpack thats doing it

Weird.. I have a stable gameplay modpack I run from time time and it's been tested pretty thoroughly. One day I was having another tank fight that's been altered by the "Passive Tank" mod and this mod immediately came from my memory as it would fit perfectly for that versus-ish style of tank fights. When I introduced it something must have broken along the dozens of restarts as I noticed random hordes appearing once more. I tested singleplayer just now ensuring to trigger tank at least once but couldn't immediately reproduce this issue
Anyway, thanks for replying. It's just that I assumed "No Random Hordes" locks tempo in some way and that enabling ShouldAllowSpecialsWithTank command with that mod breaks tempo one way, as a whole..?

@Lombaxtard No, it's compatible because all my setting does is allow random hordes to spawn during the Tank phase, it doesn't modify how random hordes work, so since you disabled random hordes all together than my mod does nothing and u can keep ur no hordes.

Is it naturally incompatible with "No Random Hordes"?

@AZR キエット waynuh.vibez this is meant for any PvE modes, it could work in scavenge or other modes but i haven't tried. i tested and designed this for campaign only. versus already has this feature by default.

Is dis only works in campaign?

OH WHOOPS! turns out i didnt have this mod updated... xP sorry for the trouble! but also thank you!!!

@kouga the latest update i made to this addon is removing vslib. the only thing in this addon is just the script.

could you perhaps make a version without vslib so it doesnt conflict?

Genuinely despised the difficulty this addon brought to my L4D2 playthroughs, would never use it again....IN A GOOD WAY OF COURSE >:3

This mod pack called terror strike zero had this as part of their addons and (with a certain weapon NERF mod), made it an actual challenge to take down a tank while also dodging spitter goo and hunters pouncing a gazillion feet in the air. Although I would not use this ever again to avoid smashing my own keyboard, I actually enjoyed the challenge this addon brought. Thank you!

@SleepyNotDead My script enables a setting that's in the game that allows specials to spawn when a Tank is in play as in alive. However, if you enable this setting as is, the specials will spawn based on their respawn timer rather the Director's tempo. The tempo matters as it gives you that downtime of nothing happening after a big fight.

So, I've made a loophole that the setting only turns on when a Tank spawns and it will disable when all Tanks are dead so you don't get specials harassing you during that downtime. I've also made so commons can help out the Tank as well but there's a cfg in the ems folder if you want that off.

Im very confused by what this does.

@Pluvillion I put out a quick hotfix. It should actually work now.

@Pluvillion okay, it's probably Vslib being cringe again. ill do a hot-fix today

I just tried playing a campaign and the mod isn't making any folder in the ems folder. I deleted the cfg file first because I know the mod will make a new one with the added param, then deleted the folder second (did it without reading the patch notes, my bad), but so far nothing's popped up.

Bless you!

Alright. I added the option, let me know if it works out for ya.

You did tell us to let you know if you want us to have the option to turn it off. It's been a while since I last played a custom campaign anyways. It's nice to have a little bit of something new but it gets overbearing sometimes haha. Will be waiting patiently for that patch.

@Pluvillion Alright, I think maybe a option that I could do to fix that is have an option for you to disable horde spawning *with Tank so you can get through custom campaigns. I probably should've seen this coming but I tested this mod for official ones. I'll see I can release a quick patch on Saturday or Sunday.

Hordes with a Tank is fine in official campaigns but it's an absolute slogfest on custom campaigns that love spawning them for no reason. I just played three customs that did nothing but spawn Tanks and I might've restarted more than thrice because those tanks were designed with the "don't kill it - run to the saferoom" rule, but I couldn't progress properly due to the commons spawning in bulk (in front and behind the team). Probably not that much of a problem on Normal but it becomes detrimental on Expert because they always spawn in places where they normally shouldn't.

Mod works fine in any other place.

@kamikaze sad boy it shouldn't conflict with any of those. my script only activates specials spawning with tank when it spawns. it could be the tank itself. RNG models can be crash-happy depending what you'd use. L4D2 has a hidden 4GB RAM limit and RNG models can exceed to it. I recommend trying without the RNG models for the Tank and see if it still happens.

for tank i use RNG models , AI mod and new animations , don`t know which one conflicts since game doesn`t show it

maybe it doesn`t obviously conflicts with other mod but when i turned it off everything became fine

@kamikaze sad boy you sure its not another mod that could be causing it? my mod only changes the value of one cvar. it shouldnt be crashing anyone's game.

this mod now crush my game in almost every tank fight don`t know why

i been lookin for this thanks mate

@Sisyphean Noted.

I noticed you forgot to change the `DirectorOptions.ShouldAllowSpecialsWithTank` variable to `DirectorScript.MapScript.ChallengeScript.DirectorOptions["ShouldAllowSpecialsWithTank"]` in the `director_base_addon.nut` file for debug messages. This causes an index error because the `DirectorOptions.ShouldAllowSpecialsWithTank` variable no longer exists.

By the way, I also recommend changing the `DirectorOptions.ShouldAllowMobsWithTank` variable to `DirectorScript.MapScript.ChallengeScript.DirectorOptions["ShouldAllowMobsWithTank"]` so it has priority over the other tables.

@诚宝 You're welcome

Thank you for all of this

@诚宝 From my testing, the Tank is gonna spawn during the BUILD_UP phase. When you're fighting the Tank and Specials, you will be in the PEAK_FADE phase which doesn't end till Tank dies. Once the Tank dies, RELAX stage starts. While yes, it's possible that they will respawn by timer during RELAX stage if you're somehow fighting the Tank during that phase, but most often you'll be fighting in PEAK stage.
It's not something I can fix since this is VALVE's fault. This is the best I could do with what I got.

You didn't understand what I wanted to ask. What I'm saying is that during the survival period of the tank, since you have enabled ShouldAllowSpecialsWithTank during this period, will special infected individuals still ignore the relaxation phase and refresh according to the timer?

@诚宝 nop, what the code does is it will check when the tank spawns and it will turn the value on. once it dies, it turns right back off. i made a check that this script does not activate during finales because of potential conflict in modded maps or the like.

Hello, I just looked at your code. Writing it this way won't cause special infected individuals to still refresh according to the timer even after the tank appears?

Great,I'm eternally grateful,now i have a fine cherry on top of my addons

Made the thumbnail fancier. Hopefully this should be the last update as there's not much else to do. Let me know if yall got any more suggestions.

I'll incorporate the commons supporting the Tank with this mod instead of being separate. Tank could use any help it can get.

What should've been from the start,given the intro of L4D1,is a tank with commons.Pls,make it happen,cause so far,with those specials alongside tank,oh man.Just need a final touch with CI.Since it was uploaded in 4th November it's been almost a month,not many people know nor like this idea,(given subscriptions)but it brings much fun.Hoping to get a touch of next one and not waiting a decade)

@Kaiser Adradum The reason I haven't made the common infected version because you can actually make your own very easily. But, I'll make it at some point since I think explaining it might be difficult.

common spawn version?

Another mod that'll be in my modlist forever. Thank you.

i changed the title. i feel the previous one was kinda misleading in a way
unless someone has a better suggestion

thumbnail is peak

Simulator Versus Mode

man i suck at making thumbnails and ♥♥♥♥. sorry