@VenoPhage If the mod had insulated walls like pipes do, that would have the same effect as disabling the mod. What's the point?

this mod is pretty cool but it'd be really nice to have some insulated variations of walls like pipes do, especially for frames, but also so we're arnt limited to two wall types for external walls

Thank you the issue was that all my friends also had the mod installed as soon as they removed it and i (the host) just had it it works swell now

@Dr. Democracy - That's right, basically a "room" that's a vacuumed out around the room you want to keep insulated. But in practice, that's overkill for almost all games. If you use insulative material like padded walls on both sides (inside and out), you should be able to manage it with some extra heating/cooling than you would in a non-modded game.

@Moose - Not that I know of. Harmony is usually pretty good with forcing cross-mod compatibility; unless someone completely removes method executions. From the error message you usually should be able to see what the issue is.

has anyone expierenced any issues with this mod combined with other mods my buddies got a lot of exception errors

Very awesome! By create vacuum layer, do you mean to create a full grid cell of space between inner and outer walls? Or is there a trick to building the exterior walls, and build the interior whilst under vacuum?

Excellent Mod! I didn't know mod was updated and was baffled on why my base was suddenly losing heat these last few days!

Cheers! Thanks for the update!

Amazing, thank you very much for the update!

@HyratelWyvern - Yes Q is in joules, but game updates in half second ticks; so you will 2x if you want Watts
@ WIKUS - thank you
@ Reika - Steel will radiate heat yes, but not as much as other materials like plastic or composites. But then again those are more insulative; its a tradeoff. If you build perpendicular walls, like radiators, you will radiate out heat faster.
@ IS-0069 - This mod only takes man made structures into account. Terrain insulation will unfortunately remain perfect I believe.

Updated. For those who are still using "StationeersMods" plugin, you will need to switch to "StationeersLaunchPad" instead. The former is no longer supported. Instructions on how to switch here: https://github.com/StationeersLaunchPad/StationeersLaunchPad

Hello, an update would be really nice! <3

Gday ! Mod seems to need an update now after terrain update.

Good day
Latest update (terrain update) make it kaput.
TY

I was curious, would building underground help with insulating a base? Like if I made sure to seal off the hole, and assuming I don't break out to the surface, I should think that 'bubble' wouldn't be affected by the external atmos?

What kind of effect will this mod have on a basic mostly-steel base on the moon, which in vanilla tends to require active cooling to stay below 50C? Will solar radiation become more of an issue than it already is, or will the base radiate tons of heat?

StationeersMods has been replaced. This is the link for the new plugin:

https://github.com/StationeersLaunchPad/StationeersLaunchPad

The documentation is rather opaque; do I have it right that Q is the Joules Transferred Per Tick. IE, if I have a Q of 1000, a single wall heater will compensate

since almost everything has to have a frame under it, what's the best way to insulate downwards? can't exactly put walls on the underside of buried frames.

@N_A - all windows/glass blocks have the same values; it's mostly all glass
@Submachine - no only vanilla blocks at the moment

does this work with the T.U.B.E mod?

Is there a difference in the material windows are made out of or are they all the same with their insulation and reflectivity?

Would be really nice if it worked on Dedicated Servers
The mods runs but no atmos is being calculated.

https://imgur.com/a/K26KOE4

a recalculation is done (via a background thread) every time you build/place a block/wall and every ~5 seconds.

Does it recalculate itself or do you need to press f8 or f3?

@Chronia, thanks! No, voxels don't transfer heat (at least in this mod), only man made structures do. Do vanilla voxels bleed heat?

Re. radiation. My next update will be to implement a similar system as the developers have for the pipes. Radiation will only lose heat up/down to atmospheric temperature. This will hopefully remove the exploit of infinite energy dissipation.

I realize I dove straight into questions without saying that I really like the work you've done here! It works pretty great on planets with an atmosphere, and I'm looking forward to a version that has input of solar radiation. Dealing with the huge day / night fluctuations on moons sounds like it would be a fun engineering challenge. (Current situation is opposite of vanilla: you end up needing only heating systems, when in reality daytime temperatures in the sun should be approaching 270 C)

How does this interact with voxels? Is the terrain still a perfect insulator? If you were to pressurize a cave / tunnel, would the only heat loss be through the airlock structure?

@sintri, no input radiation from solar to walls/frames in this mod, yet. I haven't found a way to do this efficiently without killing the frame rate.

Wall heaters (or any energy conversion from solar panels/wind turbines to heat) are very weak and energy expensive. Moon is probably doable still, but any other planet (i.e. Europa) will require you to use more creative and "fun" heating methods. Hint, try using devices that combust oxite and volatiles, and generate hot gasses.

I assume this is bidirectional? If so how do I collect some of that sweet sunlight heat? Can I just paint some panels black?

But yea, I'm bleeding heat and relying on a unsustainable amount of wall heaters.

Guess it does make stuff like the moon far more challenging when all your heat's being radiated straight out to space.

So I was playing vanilla, built a moon base and nothing was generating heat yet the temperature never moved. How is this not in the base game?

I've fixed a calculation bug. Larger rooms did not properly calculate heat/gain loss. Sorry.

@Sazamaki; the mod has been updated to work with the latest version. Thanks :)

@Free Lunch thanks i ended up managing the temperature at vulcan using as you recommend steel outside and padded inside, with some vaccum around,

btw i guess the update broke the mod, at least i had the feeling it was not working

@Sazamaki; yes, materials matter. Checkout the description for more info to see what materials are good at what. You don't need to make the padded walls visible to utilise their properties. There are many creative ways to insulate your base, if you are willing to experiment.

hello Free Lunch first of all thanks for the amazing mod

i would like to know if it matters which type of wall i'm using

something like the padded wall kit has lots of variables

the padded walls (thin) are giving me the feeling of being in a sanatory haha, they look really bad

holy shit thank you so much for this mod

Has anyone tried this on Vulcan with the plants and nutrition mod? Is it reasonable, without having to sit in a 1x1 vacuum room for hours on end?

@ttr; this mod simulates your base as a thermal "resistance" network. Each wall / frame will add a some resistance (insulation) to heat flow. So having 2 walls back to back will slightly improve insulation (very little if iron, more if padded or composite). You will find that most of your insulation will happen at the first and last walls (ones that face into your room, and those that face the outside). Those walls usually have the highest thermal resistance because of gas (or vacuum) to solid interactions, and changing those will have large impact on your insulation. Checkout the "Tips" section in the description.

So you went from "frames are perfect insulator" to "you're Efed" :)

how this will work in situation when two walls are back to back?

this mod is genius, thank you

@Phhantom, no, this uses Newton's law of heat transfer via lumped resistive/capacitive model.
A resistive network is used to approximate heat flux between each room and the outside.

Man this would make it so much harder to start a base. But totally the sort of thing stationers should have in game already particularly if the devs designed for it and made it possible to get good thermal control built. Come to think of it this would neatly side step the problem my underground moon base was having with being completley unable to reduce heat below 50C. Although it may have caused a problem with the atmosphere freezing out. Not sure it would depend on how bare stone rates as insulator.

is this using laplace? really cool

That's most complex code I ever seen in modding there.

I hate how this isnt in the vanilla game...

this sounds like a nightmare, ooh fun

First. That is pretty awesome