Czech flag but karma

Okay, I tried to fix the guardians throwing out players with >10 karma (even if it makes sense lore-wise, I want players to be able to ascend gameplay-wise).

Hey I actually kinda like the "guardian hates you over max karma 10", if it isn't too much bother, a config option for it would be nice.

yeah, sorry!

@SeventhShatteredStarr, So Chasing Wind does reset the karma to 10 now? Darn. That might be pretty annoying to fix...

I've played watcher, so I'm not sure about pre-watcher

When I went to CW before Watcher, my karma got increased by 1 as if it was an echo. Not sure about now.

Oh, I just tested it. It does.

@SeventhShatteredStarr, I never tested it, but hopefully no, it shouldn't.

This does reset karma to 10 after meeting Chasing Wind

@Just a Floating Eye, Hmm, before Watcher it said >= 9, now it says == 9. Well, it's an easy fix. I'll add it to my list.

It seems the game checks for maximum karma of 10 for you to pass the guardians, any higher or lower leads to them hating you.

I guess you could say too much karma means you're too aligned with the world? Something something echoes.

Or maybe it should just be fixed.

Having too much karma makes the guardians hate you for some reason?

dang

@jaxchambliss2014 I suspect this mod isn't very important to you.

Normally, the highest karma level you can reach is 5 (house-like icon). Visiting echoes or meeting 5P can raise your karma up to 10 (X symbol). This adds karma levels above 10, all the way up to 34.

what does this do

@riley_ In game, "karma 1" (the upside-down 2 symbol) is actually karma=0. "Karma 10" is then actually karma=9. But setting the starting karma to 0 and having echoes give one extra karma would both be pretty easy, yeah.

this gave me an idea, would it be possible to set saint's starting max karma to 0? and then make echoes always give them 2 karma levels or something

I still think a redesign at some point would be great. Especially since some people might have huge long term playthroughs and might eventually reach that stage anyways.

I agree. I just kept them in because someone wanted more than 22 karma levels. Basically the intention is that no one will ever see 23-34 in normal gameplay.

Cool mod I love the idea of this but I don't really like how the sprites for 23 - 34 are just basically a reset of the previous levels of karma... it feels a bit strange

so enlightened rn

@Phantasmal, I'm pretty sure Artificer's "acceptance" ending is hard-coded. However, this will allow Artificer to access the depths without having to drag a scav corpse all the way there.

If this gives me the power to give Arti a happy ending I'm gonna scream

@_Foxy_145 This mod also adds the ability for karma gates to require these high values. Thus, other mod authors can use this to make special, extra-difficult requirements. As mentioned in the description, this mod was designed for use with my Region Randomizer mod, and it also has some application with Melon's Gate Karma Randomizer mod.

But primarily, it gives purpose to meeting echoes. With a cap of 10, echoes are often useless.

thanks melons

@Casual Say thanks to Melons, because Karma Expansion Expansion is now real! Melons drew some new sprites, so I recycled the old sprites as karma 23-34. ...I haven't actually been able to test if the game functions at such high levels, but I'm pretty confident it'll work.

@Casual If you'll do the sprite-work for the mod, I'll do it. The reason I only added 12 extra levels is because I didn't want to think of creative designs for each karma level, so I decided to just make it a wheel, and 12 was the highest number of spokes that was still readable.

but fr i made a route to get to max karma (without iterator karma) as survivor and monk (not sure about the rest of them) and kinda need the Karma Expansion Expansion mod since more regions have new echos and uhh yeah

Man I cant WAIT to see the Karma Expansion Expansion mod that increases the max to 34 max karma

@Laen Max karma on the base rain world game (without Downpour) is 16 (visit 5P to get 10 karma, then each echo raises by one). With Downpour... Saint can reach 11, Artificer is still capped at 9, but otherwise the max is 13 for Hunter and Gourmand, 12 for Rivulet and Spearmaster. This mod is intended to be used with many modded regions to give an incentive to explore all of them. So you'll need around 10 modded regions to reach 22 karma.

is it possible for people to reach the max karma naturally? (like the max max)

i had an idea like this for my au, it was the 5th karma symbol but edited. i kinda wanna add these to my au..

&Unique_Username_Here Nah, the, um, symbols are, um, very meaningful, they... uh. Represent that anyone using this mod is probably playing way too much Rain World and the extra karma symbolize playing overtime, since you're going beyond ascension and over-winding the clock and some nonsense like that. Yeah... makes sense...

(Btw to everyone: Chasing Wind SHOULD work 100% of the time now, but it's untested)

@TheLazyCowboy1 some ancient engineer got drunk af on nectar and made this probably.

If anyone wants to redo the sprites, feel free to do so; I'll put them in the mod (unless they're terrible). I'm certainly not skilled at making sprites. I do like the clock aesthetic, though.

this is pretty cool, actually. you should clean this up a bit, it could lead to more things if it catches the right person's eye 🤔

...I'm very confused that anyone is actually downloading this mod...?

@Unique_Username_Here, I made this mod for little reason with very little effort. The karma symbols were designed to be as lazy as possible, and at the end of drawing them I decided that clocks were their inspiration. None of this has any meaning, lol.

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+++++++++++-'........'+++-'......'
++++++++++-'..........-'+-'........-'I forgot steam crushes spaces :C
+++++++_-'........_-';+-'.........-'
++++_--'''''''''''''''''''''..-'............'-
++-'._-.........._---------..........|
++|-'+-'......-'++++++-'..........'-._
+|..|++|......|++++++|....................'..-.._
++..\_-'.......\++++++|..............................'..-..______..-...'..."""...'...-..._
++|-'.............\+++++/..............................................................................'...-._
++'-____..-.'......................................................................................................'...-.._
+++\............................................................................................................................'..-._
++++++'+-.._.................................................'-_........................................_-'

It would be cool if I made this as a karma requirement for one of the gates in my first region >:)


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what does it mean....

Epic

i know its stupid and you think think im stupid but i dont care

im cooked (im trying to get all different karma thingys rn)

I've wanted something like this ever since I started playing with more mod regions, cool mod.

When enough isn't enough