You’re a legend, man! One of those three mods was the culprit. I unsubbed and now everything works fine.

45 active mods! I'm always amazed by people who are willing to take those chances

Jokes aside, it's hard to say just from the collection. My first guess is that there's a compatibility issue with a mod that also edits characters, such as:
-Unique Bodyguard for Unique Generals
-Capture Unique Characters
-Make Character Unique.No script version

There are two possibilities: If the crash occurs due to a mod conflict, changing the mod order might solve it. The other possibility is that the mods have corrupted the save file, in this case reloading an earlier save would be the only solution.

Usually, I would offer to check the save file, but I'm not activating all those mods As a last resort, you can activate the "Script debug activator" mod and check what the log file in the game directory says after the game crashes.

Can you check my collection? The series that I’ve spent hours playing — and that my viewers have been following with great interest — has crashed. In the Gods tab, the ‘favored warriors of the gods’ screen doesn’t change. Additionally, when I click on the family tree, the game crashes. After hundreds of turns, these two screens suddenly started causing issues. I can still end turns and fight battles, but whenever I try to interact with either of these two screens, the game breaks

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3334029146

Thank you for your words! I've added the link to the translation!

Hi Amulet of Kings!
Amazing work on this mod! I really enjoy it.
To make it more accessible for the Chinese player base, I've created a complete Chinese localization. It's available here: 网站链接
Would you consider adding a link to it in your mod description? It would be a huge help for Chinese players looking for it.
Thanks for your time and for creating such a great mod!

Yeah go ahead. The correct way to make them compatible would be to delete the death dilemma script from my mod, use ODD as a submod and add the relevant trait to the characters killed on turn 1. I don't want to do it myself for two reasons: I don't want to risk breaking a script and I woldn't like to rely on mods outside the Bibliotheca Historica collection.

It's used by the forts reinforce all battles and the tower ambushers mod. I could also make a submod that just combines both scripts if that's okay

What do you want to use the mod for? The Override Death Dilemmas (ODD) mod doesn't do anything by itself, it's used by other mods that spawn and kill characters. The easiest option is to load ODD on top of expanded family trees. This will maintain the features of ODD, but you will get some death notifications on turn 1.

Would you consider adding support for this mod? https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3312220625
It should just be an added line into the death dilemma script

Hi, being a startpos conflict, a bugfix is not enough, the mods need a compatibility submod to work with each other. Expanded Family Trees already has a 12-building slot submod (Radious compatibility submod) if you are interested. Other than that, this mod is designed to work with Expanded Pantheons, which changes Aegean cult center locations.

This is almost certainly due to both mods being a startpos edit, but the 10 Build slots for Mesopotamian and Aegean cult centers bugfix mod (associated with the community bug fix patch) conflicts with this one and I'm guessing with Daughters of Ares as well.

No idea if you want to include the bugfix into this or not, but I wanted to mention it just in case.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3305127694

ok that worked (The load order was wrong). thank you very much!

The load order can be found in the description, if you are only using Expanded Pantheons and Expanded Family Trees, Expanded Pantheons should be on top. Try unsubscribing and resubscribing to the mods. If the problem persists, maybe a complete reinstall could help, I've never heard about anyone having this issue.

Is there a specific load order that I somehow missed? I ask because only Aggamemnon, his wife, and their son is appearing in the Mycenae family tree. I am only running the expanded pantheon mod and started a new game.

Ah, that's unfortunate, I agree that Ashur-Nirari III should be younger. The mod is in maintenance mode, unfortunately I'm only updating it to fix bugs , but I'll change it if there is another major update.

Hello. I noticed that Ashur-Nadin-Apli doesn't have a wife, he is 30 years old, and yet he has a son, Ashur-Nirari III, who is 18 years old. There's an age discrepancy here. No, I understand that "technically" it's possible to become a father at 12... but... Perhaps it would be better to lower the son's age to, for example, 14? Could you do that?

Wow, the mod has reached 15k subscribers and has become the 5th most subscribed mod of Pharaoh! Thank you for your support!

I was already following the load order, but I additionally have now added the pantheon mod as per the description, and have still been experiencing the issue. However, through testing I have managed to work around it, starting by destroying the Ugarit faction. Curiously, once I did that, a few turns later the crashing restarted but on Alashiya's (nation on eastern cyprus) turn. The only connection between the two that I could see is that Alashiya had moved north and occupied taurus and the surrounding settlements after I razed them when they belonged to Ugarit.

This suggests to me that perhaps it has to do with that area? Maybe specifically syrian nations occupying it? As the territories have since been reoccupied by hittite factions after I reloaded to a much earlier save and killed Alashiya as well as Ugarit.

Regardless, with the death of those two factions I have not had any further crashes.

At first glance I don't see where the compatibility issue comes from. Are you using the load order recommended in the description? And where have you placed the Radious community bug fix patch? The best place is probably below Expanded Family Trees and above Radious. If you want you can send me your save file to look into the issue.

Hello, I'm getting a crash consistently in every campaign on Ugarit's end turn. I imagine the issue is with either the family trees mod, or its compatch with radious.

Only mods are Radious part 1 and 2, radious community bug fix patch, family tree mod, and family tree mod-radious compatch. Game just hangs when it gets to Ugarit in the end turn order, always between the 28-40 turn range. Just leaving a comment in case you have time to check it out!

45 mods! Some people just like to take chances

I found a solution. I put this mod at the top of the mod list. The game didn't crash. That means it conflicts with another mod in the list. https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3334029146

Turn 3, game crashing at oddseus turn.

My mod list: https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3334029146

I think so, I haven't received any comment about them not being compatible.

Are your mods compatible with the Community Bug Fix mod?

This is a known bug without a solution (see bugs megathread). The mod is designed to be played without the Avatar of the Gods skin option

I think the mod may be treating Suppiluliuma is unmarried and removing his ability to have heirs because of it. It shows him as both his own heir and scion. I'm using the avatar skin. Under royal family he is shown as the head of the family with avatar skin, (with no wife) and down the bottom of the tree, as his own heir with his original skin, (and with his wife and daughter). I haven't had a single new child 12 turns in, and have now married a second wife that shows up as his wife at the head of the royal family tree (next to the one with the avatar skin).

Would this mod treating him as unmarried under royal tree effect births at all?

Can you make a compatch for Agony as well?

@Redneck I have checked the ancillary bug, but I don't know why it's happening. It doesn't have a custom model, so it should behave as a generic character.

Hi, this is a known bug without a solution. Don't worry, it only happens in the autosave generated when creating a new campaign. Use regular saves and you should be fine.

Hi, After I start a new game for the first time and exit, when I load this save, a bunch of family members will appear together on the map, and the oldest person in the family tree will replace the original faction leader. The problem seems to arise in factions such as Troy and the Amazon in the Aegean Sea, while the original Egyptian and Hittite factions did not have this issue. Is this normal for the mod?

@Redneck Thanks, I'll check it out.

@mg478467 Probably the mod did not load correctly. Are you using any other mods? Just in case, you have started a new campaign right?

@Buuwack That's fine, the mod is killing the faction leader's ancestors

This mod caused the Hatti campaign to start with a whole bunch of NPCs dying????? and i have to click through like 10 death dilemmas or so

i dont see any other person than agamemnon and his wife and son in the family tree

@Amulet of Kings

When you put armor on Peleus (Phthia faction) his model changes, and doesn't revert back if you take the armor off. Not sure if this was intended or not.

Sí, así está bien. Además, si quieres puedes usar el submod the traducción al castellano (Expanded Family Trees [Castellano]), que debería ir encima de todos los demás.

por favor confirmame,
de arriba abajo

1ero compatibilidad de arbol genealogico
2 arbol genealogico
3 radious mod

es asi???? esta bien?

Sí, tienes el orden en la descripción. Además, necesitas el submod de compatibilidad, que va encima de los otros dos.

Amuleto de reyes

cual seria el orden correcto

arriba el mod de arbol genealogicos
y abajo el mod de Radious Mod?

Fair point. For the Aegean factions I took a semi-historical approach, since most if not all of the characters in the Iliad are not historical characters.

They changed that because they wanted the game a bit more historically accurate. Most likely Phthia was a city and not the name of the country, and the city itself was never unearthed. Likely the kingdom itself was named Thessaly or Aeolia.
Not here to argue which is correct or historical I was just curious.

Because Peleus (Achille's father) was the king of Phthia. Troy uses this name for Achilles' faction, I don't know why Pharaoh changed that.

Not a huge issue, but why does this mod rename Aeolia to Phthia?

El mod funciona sin problemas, Radious es un mod aparte que no añade nuevos familiares. Si no se cargan los familiares correctamente, asegúrate de cargar los mods en el order correcto (orden en la descripción).

A MI NO ME FUNCIONABA, nunca salian nuevos familiares con este mod, En radious Mod eso se corrigio???????

another vote for Siptah being Merneptah's successor (whether biological or adopted).

i think Siptah being Amenmesse's son doesn't fit game's canon.

Dodson suggested Amenmesse being Seti's son, hence Siptah Son of Amenmesse is Seti's grandson (thus somewhat legitimate for Bay to support in this Amenmesse' son theory).
but game's canon, Amenmesse isn't Seti's son.

also Amenmesse is half Kushite in game canon,
Siptah is examined to be red hair, which would be extremely rare for a Kushite to have ginger hair.

Siptah also got some interesting potential bloodline, his mum could be a Canaanite named Sutailya, could make this "Sutailya" belong to Bay faction married to either Merneptah or Seti.

being Merneptah's successor also allows higher historical roleplay, as if one wishes to stick with history as much as possible, Amenmesse faction would have been defeated and then Siptah got almost no chance to become pharaoh.

just an idea, keep up the good work :)

Hi, you can find the appropriate load order in the Bibliotheca Historica section in the description. Expanded Family Trees is the only requirement, you can select the other mods to your liking.

What loading order do we need to have it in for it to work properly?

It's technically possible, but it's not something I'm planning to do, the mod is in maintenance mode, I'm only updating it to fix bugs. If you are interested, I can tell you how to create a submod

Thank you for this great mod !!! is there anyway to play new characters in custom battle?