What does this new update entail?

Also, banks. Wow. Much wow, much profit, very fun. I'd found a bank IRL rn if I had the cash.

Let me just say that this is one of the best things to happen to AGOT. :D House Velaryon is much more fun to play with now.

@Jai Gupta I will try.

hey can you make it compatible with extra custom strong seed

Please update soon

The update for this will be delayed as I aim to permanently fix extreme complexion values. The mod is still usable and will not affect your saves.

@RachelEGames is the game-rule set to "Show Appearance"? If that is not the issue, please let me know. This shouldn't be incompatible with anything, but I am willing to locate the source.

Hi there! It's not showing up in my game. It says that it's in my subfolder, but the melanin isn't the game.

@Naledge You are welcome.

Thank you for this.

@alchemistre Thank you!

@booklover5975 I have done so. It's not too different from their default appearances, but should at least look a bit more natural.

@booklover5975 Yes, I can do that. I didn't touch them because they are Targaryens and not in the show. I suspected the show would treat them like Jaehaerys I and everyone before him, where the Velaryon genes apparently disappeared completely (!), rather than like Rhaena and Baela. I will do it and turn it into a game rule.

Hey, this may be asking too much, but do you think it would be possible to edit the DNA of Aegon III's canon children (Daeron, Baelor, Daena, Rhaena, Elaena) to have darker skin. It seems their canon children DNA gives them light skin which looks a bit odd with this mod on. Its been a while since I played a game where they appeared so if you've already done this please ignore.

@Afri you are welcome and thank you.

@Polskers happy playing.

Just wanted to say thanks, this mod rocks!

@Alchemistre

Thanks for your concise answer, I very much appreciate it! Sounds like your mod is still the go-to for continuity of making sure all the characters look the same/similar across generations as well as complexion! You explained it very well, and I'll most certainly continue to use your mod. :)

Cheers.

Con't: The other addition/issue is complexion maintenance. HOTD put forward that regardless of the other parent, children with a Velaryon parent inherit darker skin and features. Even the background Velaryons are black. It is used to highlight the Strong boys' true ancestry i.e. strong seed. It might just be my bad RNG luck, but I find CK3 is awful at managing this. In both base and AGOT, black-white parent couples heavily skew towards the white parent. I had to add a custom strong seed otherwise they end up white within 2-3 generations. This of course isn't a part of AGOT+.

@Polskers Hi, you are welcome. It's nice to know others enjoy it.

You imagine correctly. The AGOT+ game rule works by replacing Corlys' mother with a Summer Islander to explain his appearance, and by giving Corlys, Laena and Laenor the DNA. His brothers will show some sign of it, but that's it. Therefore, if you use only that rule, the rest of the Velaryon dynasty and Laena's daughters will still have default AGOT DNA. As you likely know, this mod gives all of them DNA. I completely understand AGOT+ dev; changing the appearance of so many characters is tedious, but for me the immersion is broken if only those three have the show-based DNA. If AGOT+ adds everyone, then I will discontinue this mod, but for now I'll continue.

Hi @alchemistre, thank you for this wonderful mod! It's been a mainstay of mine for quite some time.

I had a question though: you mention the new game rule... does that new game rule in essence make this mod null and void or unnecessary now? I imagine that with this game rule, there still things added in this mod to the DNA of House Velaryon which make it so that this is in addition to the Book or Show appearance as laid out in the game rules as of the latest update?

Thank you so much, and keep up the wonderful work!

@Hideas thank you for pointing that out. Both the education trait and doubled perk are part of AGOT+ setup, not this mod. I will change it in this mod, as I agree with you about the trait, but you might want to message AGOT+ dev as well. They may have their reasons for the education trait, but at least the heregeld typo can be fixed.

Hello. Minor bug (or feature): in setup effects for Corlys it should be 'education_stewardship_5' as it is in main mod instead of 'education_martial_4' because Sea Snake was adventurer and fortune builder.

Also you added 'heregeld_perk' twice.

@DiscoH0BBIT No. You can use it with AGOT Bookmarked or not, that is up to you. If you are, then put this mod after it. At the current moment, the mod is not yet up to date.

do i need agot bookmarked for this to be stable?

Mod is essential until we get Roads of power for Nettles and/or Summer Islands.

Someone on the main AGOT+ sent me your way. Thanks!

@simplymekk @Revy you are welcome. Enjoy.

thanks for the update, i love this mod

Thank you for this mod. I was wondering if someone found a way to make the Velaryons tv show accurate. Nice work!

@Mephystoseles below.

after means below or above ?

Essential mod. Thank you for updating it.

@xane_mil You are welcome. I appreciate that you were willing to assist. Enjoy your game.

@Ranger Cont'd I would say the HOTD Velaryon SS is stronger than Targaryen, since Laena and Laenor both inherited more from Corlys and Baela+Rhaena have more Targ ancestors but look Velaryon, with Baela being closer to Corlys despite having a Targ father. Alyn and Addam. There's nothing wrong with that nor light-skinned Laenor since Black people come in all shades but you're right that all of the Targaryens should be more black in-show by its own genetic rule. From what I understand, the main reason the Velaryons were changed is so the audience wouldn't get confused by so many white blondes. Based on how badly the show's writing turned, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't think beyond that. That and exposing the Strong boys, even if they went on to pretend otherwise.

@Ranger yes, blackness is the strong seed, with an aim of show accuracy. To mimic the show and ASOIAF's fantasy genetics, and work around how CK3 seems to handle darker skin.

I only made DNA at first, but CK3 seems to handle interracial children with a dark-skinned parent by heavily skewing light/white in complexion and features. It's whatever in vanilla, but in an HOTD run it wasn't working because House Velaryon would be fully white within a generation or two. What I've done is applied modifiers to a character's birth appearance. The variation that comes from that is my way of generating characters like Laenor. The image in the post with the big family shows a bit of that. The light and dark-skinned characters are from the same parents, which happens in reality. The SS mechanic doesn't apply to any of the pre-existing characters like Laenor since I set their appearances manually.

Thank you for the update @alchemistre You are a real one!!!!!

@alchemistre I have a question about the strong seed. If we are making them show accurate would having their strong seed make them black? I mean if you aren't making them show accurate then awesome no worries, but given that Leanor, son of Corlys and Rhaenys, is pretty light skinned, would that mean that their 'blackness" isn't part of their strong seed? Or that the Targaryen seed is stonger maybe? Then again the Velaryon bastards are much darker skinned so maybe it is just the targ blood. Should the Targaryens be more black due to all the intermarriage? 1) ASOIAF has weird genetics and a weird obsession with it and 2) can these questions even be addressed with the code we have?

@xane_mil @grox Thank you for informing me. I have disabled the title piece until I resolve it. I will look into adding grandchildren when I do. You are welcome.

update pls

Okay looks like the redness and Corlys genes aren't there anymore. Also the Corlys model from 108 AC could be copy/pasted. Yes I did also notice something weird about the Iron Throne vs. Dragonstone titles.

Would it be possible to make the direct grandchildren heirs also Prince/Princess. Would that be difficult to do?

Thanks for all your work!!!

the mod overrides the Seven Kingdoms title when the king is also a child of the ruler of Dragonstone, i. e. Viserys I, Aegon I are now styled as just "princes of Dragonstone"

lmao

Looks like as of Dragons Update some characters turn red, Corlys DNA adapts to other houses

Idk, how can I rate it so it can be more stars? I have a feeling that people who gave it little stars were racists simply

Why is this 3 stars???

@xane_mil you are welcome. The main mod added new genes that have no choice but to break DNA, if you are curious of the cause. I cannot promise that my mod will never do so, but since I made it for me I don't want it to break my own games either.

Thanks for confirming! @alchemistre When I started a new game the DNA came back. Thanks for the quick reply :)

@RAJA @xane_mil @eNoble-US Unfortunately, yes. The 0.2.13 release is not save-game compatible. It broke my save-file as well.

yeah the new update is not save game compatible