if i had a nickel for every time ive seen a cruel king themed around ice, i'd have 2 nickels, which isnt a lot but its strange that it happened twice

oh go-
uhm
very stronk, very bonk, crystals are indeed back

okay my sauce is back but currently there's a weird bug where when i watch the replay in singleplayer, after i do a guard point scythe move, it makes it wind up (which isnt supposed to happen)

have no idea if it works in multiplayer though

MY FUCKING SAUCE

NOOOOO OUR HIT CANCELS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Actually might make the character easier to play
And prevent smarter opponent from abusing the hitcancels when they're overlapped with a billion crystals
Still sadge tho :c

Treason Condition: only "funny move" Grabs, Invulve-Iframe (think of dodge, DP, armored attack), and specificly the Guard Break hitbox trigger it, send opponent to knockdown.

Otherwise lose to everything, normal melee hit, projectile hit, lose to wait, short hop, walk in, etc.

The special damage thing, tested and the only way to get 4k in 2 specials and still combo afterward is with with 9 meter and stacked full Freeze. Otherwise it's either lobby setting or character damage mod.

the specials, i don't know exactly what happened cause i don't play the char, but tyrant was able to deal 4k in 2 attacks, and be able to keep going with other specials, what's the point of burst if i get all my life stolen before being able to burst

maybe actually be helpful and explain what happened? like what move you hit and stuff

still tho being able to 2 combo someone is pretty op

with

well i don't know what happened then but i clearly got countered by a non grab move

Counter grabs and attacks... are you haunted by some JJKslop mod kind of counter, it say right there text by text "lose to a normal hitboxes". Like, straight up throw a jab or something. This is too dense.

also when i say "you'll get there at some point" its not in a mocking way, i genuinly think one day you'll be able to make your chars fun to play against and not op to play as, just balanced, you keep making progress on that for multiple chars, and thats really nice, keep that going

exept librarian, librarian is alright

specific things means grabs and attacks ? cause thats what it is mate, also everybody says your chars are not balanced, not just me, the only peoples that don't say that are peoples who are not really familiar with the game

I think you should read closer and see it "only beat specific things" and "lose to a normal hitboxes".

It's like what you said, but It's like you saw 1 clips and form your entire view around it without checking the actual move and complained base on your delusion. All your complains so far are pointless and just not how things work.

And well thanks for "balancing" comment, this type of steam public comment are mostly from salty people with inept idea on how the base game and character work so aside from clearing confusion when possible, none taken.

nah counter isn't supposed to stop grab thats stupid, no game does that, exept if its specifically a counter grab. what are we supposed to do ? not move in front of the opponent ? thats stupid too. you just suck at balancing but you'll get there at some point, i believe in you mate.

A counter "suppose" to beat grab if it lose to a normal hitboxes and only beat specific things...

And don't get the op-ness because before or now the reward is a normal knockdown and minimal damage - compare to other method of reading grab or the cost of missing the counter is a full combo - this should've go without saying.

The complains so far are just really ignorant, lack sense of general balance and treat the moves as if they work in full capacity and guarantee the best reward on select all the time.

fun fact. cowboy Downward cleave does this but better.

kind of a wtf point, a counter isn't supposed to stop a grab, less op than it was before but still op

Very vague complains, probably niche situation, faulty game settings, or character damage mod, no 2 specials do 4k damage in a vacuum.

And counter drop immediately after the hit compare to normal grab read giving full combo. not really a wtf point, if you try to jab or short hop at rps range you win either way.

yeah idk what happened but being 2 comboed isn't very fair, also the counter counters grab, wtf ?

are the 2 specials in the room with us or they are talking about Frostbite/Agriculture with high meters

4k in two specials

still pretty op

Treason main usage is for any "funny" button, secondary usage is retrive your Scythe for next turn.

nvm saw the comment explaining treason, that makes sense! I think! Gotta see if I can test that out reliably for catches but other than that wahoo Treason figured out.

Update: This might be the most fun character to play in yomih when you get going, which is literally as easy as "get them to block a hit." Just perfect at what he does without being too powerful outside of it. Hell I've even overcome my skill issues fighting him myself, since he does actually have pretty notable weaknesses to setup and some projectiles, just have to get around that or something. Only things I wonder the purpose of are moves like cataclysm, which is extremely situational and the ice shard UI showing on both the turn you use it and after it, but only mattering the second time is odd. Also Treason, which I cannot for the life of me get the counter it does to make sense. I think it's move length based and only when they're using a normal or special? It's been explained before and I still don't get exactly when I should try it other thaan seeing it on prediction but other than that, fucking awesome character.

as honorary and self proclaimed #1 tyrant; the rework ice cubes
(note to self, make a steam guide or maybe even a video guide on him )

im not sure if its just me but this feels like one of the most overpowered mod characters there is

That's actually really helpful, thanks, will keep that in mind for next match I have with Tyrant.

You just throw hitbox at him something like f6 or 7 poke would be safe at midrage, guardbreaks are generally quicker than his Scythe move that could bypass their armor, try push block more under block string because he only have guardbreak when full freeze or installed, throw setplay at him can stop him from charging Bombard, etc.

these options are built around vanilla characters, a number of characters from workshop might not have 1 or 2 crucial tools to stop one of his gameplan, in this case one can pray

Skill issue for me but damn this guy has not been the most pleasant to fight against so far, still figuring out how the hell to even approach someone who has any idea what they're doing.

Wait Tyrant got real??
TYRANT GOT REAL???
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

it say "Enter Vanheer" on the toggle

Aww... No more Crystal spam in Neutral
sadge.

you have to be racist to properly play Tyrant

tutorial is probably in codex

can i get a tutorial on this guy please

i’d like to think this guy is pure evil and does the shit he does just for the love of the game with 0 reason

nop

my friend and I are currently arguing if this character is based of another character, is it?

like if anyone knows how to play this guy PLEASE tell me fr

I'm trying to learn him but he genuinely doesn't feel good to play at all. Maybe potentially give him a grounded hitting move? Or change one to be able to do that? I like the character concept but I feel like i'm being punished for trying to use my hyper armor, or one of my few fast moves.

is it intended for your opponent to gain a frame while your using a move with hyper armor or not because i feel like its intended for you to abuse your hyper armor but you just cant

yeah dont worry I'm putting him in a freezer next update

his oppression extends to the FPS of the game. please nerf his particles.

do we mutually call this guy ice hitler

I used my good old hitler friend here to bash a cowboys head into the ground five times with Impose and grab in multiplayer :) then I killed them with impose

I'm feeling kind of oppressive today, might harvest at full super