I really appreciate the level of love and care you've put into this mod so far. The events are legitimately a treat to read. I am incredibly stoked for any further plans you have for this mod.

And the new DLC got announced, he's probably waiting to update till after EK2 gets updated to that.

We all got kinda screwed with the new Elder kings update releasing out a few days after this got updated

Will you be expanding on this? I've subjugated the Reachmen, Bjours, Iron Orcs and Goblins, experimented on ogres, raised the Dark tower and established Mordor. Are there any plans to add any more subjugation for other races or any further decisions? I was surprised he doesn't seem to have anything for subjugating or deceiving elves

doesn't work

Head seems to pop up after starting the game however, also is there any way to give him an appearance? Make him have a more human form? also can i use console commands to remove his "Maia" trait and just give him lifespan 6?

Dangit! I didn't even get to play it!

It would be interesting to eventually get something like the Visage of the Dark Lord mod, perhaps that would reduce him having armor issues. Or adding a rule to have his fair or corrupted appearance. Idk of coding tho, perhaps that's even more difficult. Anyway, thank you for making such an interesting mod

The game updated, which seems to mess up the model every time.

Same, no head. Also will there be the option to swap between forms any time soon?

Just tried it, Sauron has no head?

<3

Updated to the latest version.

I really hope this gets updated to latest version

uhhhhh update please? if that's uhmmmm okayyyyy

Would love to see a base game version of this mod

Yeah, Sauron on medieval Earth would be lit

I would love a base game version of this! i don't need it, i don't need it, i don't need it, I NEEED IT!

Also, since the Cult of the Lidness Eye is literally the worship of Sauron himself, it's quite funny he keeps referring to himself in the third person. If possible, make him say stuff in the first person. For example, instead of saying "the Dark Lord", he should say "myself".

Maybe you should add a Follower of Sauron trait. That'd be pretty cool.

if i can make a suggestion i would keep out the 4th wall breaks out and use this opportunity to make sauron understand and master the metaphysical of tamriel in the way you interpret it.
i may just repeat myself but:
you have the golden opportunity to make an outside god-like being become effectively an actual god by the lens you apply and according to what you already have in terms of "story" it shows that you can spin an interesting narrative.
if you were to make metagame jokes, you would undermine your own writing. this can work, but just like time travel, it most of the times just sucks

I'm not so certain Sauron will ever grasp the full scope of things, so I've not come up with anything particularly concrete (yet, at least), but I like the notion that in this context Eru and the TES Godhead may be essentially the same entity perceived from different angles, so to speak, and/or maybe something silly and 4th wall~ish involving humanity's creative urge and general Lorkhan nonsense, or something like that. Anywho, I'm rambling, but I hope you've found this at all enlightening/interesting. Thanks again for the interest.

As for the rest, I suppose I’d call it a bit of both. I think Sauron would notice the similarities sooner or later, and given the more fluid nature of reality in TES and Sauron's interest in tinkering with things on physical/spiritual levels, I feel he would adjust to a more "platonic" POV, which would give him paths to certain insights of this TES/LoTR united cosmology. Given the tendency towards the metaphysical in TES lore, I thought it would be funny/interesting to write about this kind of stuff, and so I've been trying in my amateur way to work these themes in where I can. Since you’ve noticed, I guess that means it's working, which I'm really over the moon about.

@Ea-Nasir Funny name. Thank you for the question. I'm quite pleased to have anyone at all describe the writing as interesting, let alone asking questions about it. I won't say too much, but yes, we certainly do have plans for the Heart/Vvardenfell (and Red Mountain). We just kind of work on this when we feel like it, of course, so I can only really say that it will be here “eventually.”

I notice in the opening that Sauron is drawn to Morgoth's broken-form and then Mundas through the beating of the Heart of Lorkhan, will there ever be any follow-up on that? Perhaps something special happening if Sauron conquers Vvardenfell?

It is pretty damn interesting how you tied the mythologies of LOTR and Elder Scrolls together, especially with the briefly touched-upon implication Nirn was somehow made from the same "template" as Arda (assuming that is not just a meta-joke at ES being inspired by LOTR).

im convinced modders can read my mind. like theres no way theres a mod for excactly this

thanks for the answer, everything is fine i just didnt realsie how many negative modifiers sauron gets to lifestyle experience xD

@richardkriener0 It just lets you get rid of the culture malus from conquering Skyrim by colonizing it with Betrayed and gives you their MAA. We've been looking at ways to make the various decisions a little more rewarding.

@PapaBear You should be able to increase it normally, are you using any other mods?

@Redkoat Unfortunately courtiers and other characters of your culture being generated is so baked into the game that it's a pain to get rid of.

Hey, I love the mod, but just wanted to ask if there is anything you can do about people from Sauron's culture constantly showing up.

quick question is there a way to actually increase lifestyle experience of stewardship besides cheats? aka is it intended that it jsut never rises?

Was there supposed to be a reward for the Falmor check? I didn't notice anything when I got there Holy Sites.

Also, will there be anymore fun ways to corrupt the world as Sauron? Because I could see events where you force every major group to acknowledge him as a dark god could be fun.

@Aodyssey That's good to know! But yeah, anything that adds new clothing or armor like Trial of Vivec won't be compatible, because files need to be overwritten for that.

@magr Yaaaay

I'm using a few mods: from testing Ultimate EK2, Cow EK2, music mods and MAA arts mods are fine.

Not sure what all aren't available, but Trails of Vivec (also newly updated) is not compatible

@Stagnentyeti600 Are you using any other mods besides EK and this one?

Sauron doesn't seem to have a head for me

The mod is up to date with the current EK2 version again!

@Aodyssey Unfortunately Sauron can't be a landless adventurer, because he's the head of his faith.

soon™

@magr When you update this can you also update it so Sauron can be a landless adventurer?

cain't wait

it would be cool to see it in AGOT tho idk where you could stick him

Is there no AGOT version?

Here to let everyone know that the update is being worked on, and will be coming out soon™

Hello, is there an approximate update release time?

Very big same. I'd be excited to play as Sauron... and maybe Landless Adventurer Witch King of Angmar?

EK2 finally updated, would love to see this mod also updated.

would kill for an event to make a new ring out of ebony in red mountain.

Just got smited by meridia, i wonder if Sauron could actually corrupt her relic and resist her instead of just getting one shot, would be cool as hell

Yeah Sauron is going to be going on a lot more adventures, he needs to visit us, and also the Princes of Darkness mod, and AGOT lol poor dude got cursed lol

Important update: We're back, now with more decisions.

Right now we're focusing on keeping this updated with the new EK2 version whenever it comes out!

ah yes trully a Galaxy brain move of the Valinor

just isikai Sauron so thats he no longer your problem