At this point, I would like to suggest reducing the cost of Dread March. From what I recall, Swift Marchers was not a thing, but now it is very easy to just have a far superior way to redouble movement in a turn. 60 should be maximum, otherwise it is kind of a dead spell.

I can confirm the same issue. Also, I notice it does not require a level 2 Wizard Tower. I know there is a unit cost involved, but I am not sure I am comfortable with how much easier it is to access the cohort through the summon than any other tier 3, or the drafting option.

I just cast the "Form Cohort" spell for the first time, and it added the Cohort to my army without sacrificing the 2 units.

I think the Order/Chaos traits make perfect sense for this; it's the mobilizing of one's population for war, conquest and pillage (Chaotic) carried out in an organized and professional manner (Order). The building associated with the Tome of Legions involves gladiatorial combat. Typically, Roman Gladiators were slaves of some variety, and AoW seems to depict slavery as a Chaotic institution.

Honestly, I think this kind of thing would make more sense as order/materium rather than order/chaos. Order/materium only has the monk theme which could fit with what you have here, while order/chaos is pretty clearly heretic-burning-themed. Nice tomes though, and a good idea that I think the game could use

@Deverin2112 that's a good idea actually. I wouldn't want to completely duplicate the architect assets but mixing in a few pieces along with the current mostly Reaver assets would probably help.

I'll look into it sometime later, still working on my Cloak and Dagger mod right now which is requiring some extra attention this update.

This obviously would be a request more down the road, but any thought to remodel the cohort using some of the assets from this expansion? Given their kind of inspired by hoplites/phalanx, I'd probably look fitting. Awesome tomes!!!

Griffon Patch update is complete, details can be found under change notes. You might need to un-sub and re-sub to force the mod to update to the most recent version.

If you find any issues I missed please let me know.

Ogre patch (open beta) update is complete, details can be found under change notes. You might need to un-sub and re-sub to force the mod to update to the most recent version.

If you find any issues I missed please let me know.

Hi everyone. If you're on the Ogre Patch Open Beta be warned that there was a modularity change introduced in this patch that can cause a drastic fps drop for some of the units in this mod when they are viewed in the encyclopedia and in game. It affects the Cohort units.

A fix will be coming eventually, sorry for the inconvenience.

Tiger patch update is complete, details can be found under change notes. You might need to un-sub and re-sub to force the mod to update to the most recent version.

If you find any issues I missed please let me know. (For any unit visual issues be sure to mention the culture and form you are playing as to help me reproduce the issue)

Why *did* you outright get rid of the Form Cohort spell? I get that some people felt it to be overpowered, but couldn't you have just bumped up the rank requirement (i.e making it only work on Champion or even Legend T1s)?

Mystic patch update is complete, details can be found under change notes. You might need to un-sub and re-sub to force the mod to update to the most recent version.

If you find any issues I missed please let me know. (For any unit visual issues be sure to mention the culture and form you are playing as, as well as any other visual overhaul mods you might be using to help me reproduce the issue)

@Dragon

That would be up to Komogi the creator of the UURB mod. They designed all of the C&DT UURB properties, I just set up the link between my mod's units and the properties they created.

The last time we spoke they expressed interest in making UURBs for my other mods so it will probably happen eventually but I can't say when.

Question, will this mod get a UURB added in like your Cloak and Dagger Tomes 2.0?

@ElderDays That would require a shield and spear animation set which the game lacks sadly. I suppose it could be done with attaching a shield to the arm like in AoW3 but that might be easier said than done.

Phalanx might make more sense than cohort for the legion unit, but fantastic mod none the less.

@Xenosophont thanks for letting me know, missing head should be fixed now.

Really like these tomes, although I think warlord is a little op with both summon and spur to action, maybe limit them to once per battle. First tome is a lot more balanced and thought out, apart from the cohort spell - cannot use it because it just feels like cheating!

Warlord has an empty face with just the eyeballs floating in there now; either due to the latest patch which also broke some other mods or due to some other mod's update. Anyone else having this issue after Wolf Update 1.2 or something?

@ScienceFictionGuy

After reading what that spell does during gameplay i caught on to that fast. The type of Tier 2 Cohort you get depends on the select unit type which i must say, is really interesting

@SDgamer

This is intentional.

The T3 Cohort is a permanent unit that you can either build in your cities or create by upgrading a unit with the "Form Cohort" spell.

The T2 Cohort units are used as temporary combat summons for the "Deploy Reserves" spell and ability.

I noticed there are multiple types of Cohort units but, all except the polearm version are tier 2. I did unlock the tome in a recent playthrough but, i'm still confused even though i figured out the upgrade part

This looks awesome, cant wait to try it.

Tome two would be "Geurilla Warfare" Tier III, 1 Chaos 1 Shadow affinity, and would focus on hit-and-run, stealth, and ambush. Spells that grant more units universal camouflage, units that abilities for attacking and retreating in the same turn, spells that arm the ground with traps, a unit that remains camouflaged in combat until it attacks or is incidentally hit by AOE or someone tries to walk through it, etc.

The conflicting ideas between the two is far more interesting to me than just eschewing the differences in culture and having both sides pursue the same sort of martial enhancements.

That said, I really, REALLY like the idea of a couple of "Martial Combat" oriented tomes. Keep it up!

My suggestion: two more tomes.

Tome one would be "Chivalry" Tier III, 1 Astral 1 Order affinity, and would focus on blunt tactics and honor in combat. Spells that benefit units for adjacency, defense bonuses, damage bonuses specifically for units who stood still this turn, a "Zoning" unit that penalizes retreating by magic ranged attacks on those who leave its range that reduces morale and inflicts negative status, etc.

I like what I see here. Unfortunately, I cannot test it out yet; I gave up videogames for lent, but I plan to give some feedback on gameplay once I've tested it.

On design: I would like very much to see the warfare tomes explore the dichotomy between order and chaos in war, rather than all of them being aligned with both, as I would think people who subscribe to the two affinities would have very different thoughts about how warfare should be conducted.

Have to split my comment because of character limit.

@Kai

I have not tested it with this specific set of tomes, but in general yes the AI is able to use modded Tomes.

Can the AI use these new tomes?

Hi everyone!

This mod has been tested and updated for compatibility with the Wolf Patch. There are a few minor issues which I think are caused by base game bugs but these are purely visual. (See the Known Issues list for more info) If you find anything I missed let me know.

In addition to patch compatibility this update also comes with an overhaul for the problematic "Deploy Reserves" spell and ability. The clone unit concept has been scrapped and replaced with a flexible summoning mechanic that allows you to summon one of four Tier 2 specialist Cohort units.

Nice

@Smokey McWeed

I do not, but I appreciate the sentiment.

LOVE all your tomes. Do you have Ko-fi?

Let me know when it's sorted, I'm looking forward to trying this out. Thanks SFGuy for your hard work!

New update added today with another round of balance adjustments. Should be safe to apply to any games in progress from the previous version.

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Only stand-out issue remaining is the Clone Summon morale problem. I looked into a couple potential ways to address it but I couldn't come up with a clean solution. So unfortunately I think they will just have to stay as is for now.

I'm hoping to get a follow-up from Triumph about how Clone summons are intended to work after they get back from their holiday break.

It's all good! Glad it's not a bug or conflict.

Aaaah the elite part must be it. Apologies

@Master Necro

It's working for me both in cities and armies with heroes also. It should be castable on any tile with a targetable unit standing in it.

Also in case you missed it the units need to be Elite rank or higher.

If they are the correct rank and the spell isn't working it might be a mod conflict. Do you have any mods that interact with unit ranks?

It didn't let me cast it on any hero or city area with tier 1 units in them. Just couldn't cast

@Master Necro

I just tested it with Dwarf Barbarians and it's working fine for me.

What part isn't working on your end?

Note that it can't be used on Magic Origin, Construct or Animal units. (The tooltip needs to be updated) Basically it's intended for racial units.

Form Cohort doesn't seem to work, I am playing as Barbarian Dwarfs

At this point i think both you ScienecFictionGuy and Timber are the only ones making Tome mods now. I really hope you two don't vanish from the AoW 4 modding scene. It is sad that two other people making such mods have seemingly just vanish from the scene

Sweet! Going to start a run and let you know how it is.

Thank you for you awesome creation and support!

Hello! Hope everyone is having fun with the mod so far.

I'm going to start rolling out some balance adjustments based on the gameplay feedback I received so far. First update was uploaded today containing adjustments for the Gladiator Pit and Warlord unit.

Deploy Reserves will also be getting some adjustments and fixes soon.

These updates should be safe to apply to any games you may have in progress. (Fingers crossed)

Thanks for these, I've really wanted exactly this sort of warfare and soldier themed tome addition!

Looks promising! I love how they also complement the Valor & Victory tomes of another mod perfectly.

Ooooh a new mod! NICE!

Appear to be a great fit to complement the tomes of Valor and Glory, 2 other moded rank I and III order/chaos martial tome!

Fantastic work as always. Looking forward to trying these new tomes out!