You able to make this work for RoC?

Drycha is way to powerful, she goes through the Skaven army and takes a level 3 outpost with 12 units when the darn outpost has a full stack, even if you ambush her it is a loss in the matchup, though you can beat her, good luck in the early game.

I suggest to give vlad Grave Guard (Halberds) as his starting army.

The mod doesn't work all the way.

The only other mod I had activated was a simple player cheat mod I made, which shouldn't conflict with this mod.

I loaded up a campaign with Gorbad, and he has is new units, but when I loaded up one with the DP, he didn't have any better units.

Better if you can simply choose each unit yourself, no prefabricated ones.

That's a good idea. I will add these changes in the next update of the mod

change arachnarok spiders to giant squigs to skarsnik

thank you :)

Changing the starting army for the Daemon Prince is more difficult because he can have different names. But I will try to implement this after the Omens of Destruction update is released.

Could you also make a better starting army for Daemon Prince? I would appreciate it :)

Poor Daniel left out again

Yes, all armies are changing, including for AI

does the ai get the bonus as well?

I haven't checked it out. Try it and let me know

compatible with SFO?

Let's continue in a special discussion

The mod in the data works fine, but any edit still doesnt work for some reason, is there a secondary file, or "names_name_562999513" affecting it anyhow? sorry but I cant figure it out

Copy the file to the "data" folder of the game, change the name for example "Better_starting_army_MY". But before that, update the mod. Your new mod will appear in the game launcher

I edited your file and saved it, maybe thats the problem? the edit conflicts with the workshop saved file? if yes, how do I do the copy thing?

That seems to be correct. Did you make changes in the new copy of the mod or in the original?

damn, I feel like a failure... is it too much to ask for the line?

-- EMPIRE - Elspeth
{faction_key = "wh_main_emp_wissenland", subtype = "wh3_dlc25_emp_elspeth_von_draken", forename = "names_name_562999513", units = {"wh3_dlc25_emp_inf_nuln_ironsides", "wh3_dlc25_emp_inf_nuln_ironsides", "wh3_dlc25_emp_inf_nuln_ironsides", "wh3_dlc25_emp_cav_knights_of_the_black_rose", "wh3_dlc25_emp_cav_knights_of_the_black_rose", "wh_main_emp_art_helstorm_rocket_battery", "wh3_dlc25_emp_veh_steam_tank_volley_gun"}},


This just dosnt work for me, the game goes back to default with any alteration, unaltered the mod works just fine

I tried and succeeded in removing two squads of swordsmen

Maybe, but I dont think so, Ive been fighting with rewriting Elspeths starting army for an hour, maybe 15 tries so far and all fails, doubt its a spelling error...
Remove, copy and paste extra units, everything brakes the mod for me, advice?

Most likely, you accidentally removed punctuation.

any idea why the mod breaks when I delete swordsman for Elspeth?

Yes, that's how it works for all lords. It is written in the mod description

Just FYI to people first using this mod: At least for Miao Ying, the starting army doesn't show up at the selection screen but the troops are there when the game starts.

Belakor getting soulgrinders is a nice touch

was this balanced based on the ai's location and who their fighting and ect? because some of these enemies have very strong units that way outperform others just because of their utility. lol and gelt has like the perfect corner camp "F" off army. but this is definitely a killer mod, thanks for your hard work.

I'm not planning on it right now.

Awesome mod, breathes new life into the campaign. It can get old having to wait until t4-t5 to get the good stuff for most factions so its great you can have them right off the bat with this. Any chance this mod can get applied to RoC?

@Kairos dont mind him the idea is great! I like it

@Danerol Lord To each his own

@Uffty The mod has been updated. Try it, the problem may disappear. If not, check changes of other lords' starting armies and disable other mods.

@THEeaGHOST245 Thanks for the notification. I have several versions of the mod for personal use. I accidentally posted the wrong one)

Setra's starting army is not the right one, he has Disco Khatep army

I like the idea but i feel that you overdid it with elite units

@ufty never got this mod working period.

Does not work with Elspeth, restarted several times.

Katarin really shouldn't have a frost wyrm, they absolute trash. The leopard sucks but somehow they made a dragon type unit suck worse than that. It does far less consistent damage, moves slower, and loses to anything that isn't an archer unit and even then it takes 3 minutes to break it. It's actually beneficial to disband the wyrm after the first few turns because it simply isn't worth the upkeep. It loses to heavy cav, heavy infantry, spears, other single entities, monstrous infantry, and takes 5 minutes for a dual between two of them to finish because they can't hit each other with their terrible animations.

Otherwise I've enjoyed every other lord I've used and appreciate the work.

daemon prince army was not updated?

Great mod, but Karl really needs his handgunners back. He just struggles with the beastmen otherwise.

hey gotta say love the mod, for some odd reason Settra has Khateps starting army comp though?

I used Rusted PackFile Manager (RPFM). Copy my mod from Steam\steamapps\workshop\content (name of the game and mod folders will consist of numbers, but inside will be the correct name of the mod "Better_starting_army") to the game folder "data". Rename the mod. It consists of a script in which you can change units.

Hey Kairos, maybe this is an odd request but could you teach me how to do this? I have some ideas for balance but I don't want to ask you to do them for me. If you could help me learn how you did it though that would be so cool.

Grabbed this for Malakai mostly, makes sense he'd have slayers up the gazzoo. DOes feel he could have even more shaved off due to the spirit but praise for how better this suits.

Small update. The starting armies of some lords from the Thrones of Decay update races have been changed

Of course, you can write your wishes. I am interested in your opinion and experience. I added the Thunderbarge more for people to try playing with it, because it's a new unit. But I still realized that it was unbalanced and planned to change it over time. So this will actually happen along with changes to some other lords.

Can I suggested switching out Malakai's starting army for maybe another doomseeker unit? I love the damn thing but he already has the spirit of grungni so, for the purposes of giving the player interesting starting armies, it's a bit unnecessary.

Just like what CA has done with Daniel, he gets no love here either lol. Cool mod though!!