As long as you paint it brown, thats michael jackson

not only micheal jackson, also a versatile jacket

i really hope this gets added one day, it's so smart and so gorgeous!!

VALVE PLEASE

If you're conflicted about the absence of a paint region taking away the possibility of cool colour combos, why not just have different styles with a white shirt on one and a black on the other. Then again, you're right in saying that the cosmetic adds a lot of team colour, and people don't really look for team colour in demo's torso, and his hands and weapons already block his torso.

I think the hat is fine but this is a little fortnity?

paint region way too big but talking about the default look of the cosmetic i NEED NEED NEED this one

I'm weighing the issue here and the odds of people seeing some pink and lime pixels and being offended by that are a very minor issue compared to the people who would make great use of painting the turtleneck colors like black, tan, team spirit, or otherwise appropriate colors.

I just don't see how anyone can suffer so much from those paints that it justifies ruining an otherwise strong feature of the item.

Team recognition is another thing entirely, but this item adds so much team color that I fail to imagine any circumstance where painting it slate or orange will cause any confusion.

it just seems a bit overblown, really

I genuinely cannot remember the last time I saw a garishly lime loadout in a game, I genuinely more often than not see people who use tasteful paint colors. and I'd paint this black or tan, and I make items for people with my taste, you get me?

if people want to wear a bunch of pink and lime they have plenty of options already. I'm not gonna kneecap a good design because a few people have tacky sense, when people who have modest and fair taste would make good use.

I don't feel like I should have to keep reiterating this point, this is just such an absurd culture war meme for the tf2 community at this point and it's gotten really tiresome. When I started playing tf2 in 2011-2012 we just made fun of people who used tasteless paint colors; the onus was on players to use paint responsibly, and good cosmetics had good paint regions that benefitted people who liked tasteful and muted colors.

you know people aren't gonna paint it tan or black, they're just gonna paint it hot pink or lime

but the paint region is so good as is!

This cosmetic set looks really good, but please make only the tip of the sleeve paintable.

Our eyes simply aren't ready yet, it's too much of a masterpiece

I might have gone a little too hard with the sculpt

For the sake of fitting in, I mean

Really like it, but I think it could use less detail, maybe replace small folds with larger cartoonier ones?

i might try that!

Isn't a possibility dim the hue?

if I could blacklist/whitelist certain paints like pink and lime, I would consider it. but paint is all or nothing, and I choose to assume most people paying money for and wearing a cosmetic actually want the cosmetic to look good

yeah idk I don't decide paint regions with people painting them lime in mind. I avoid replacing/covering team color too much/at all, but I assume people will be tasteful with the paint regions I provide (and generally I think people do)

if someone wants to be tacky and paint theirs a bright color, that's really not a big deal, just make fun of them for doing that like we always did. there are so many good paint colors that work well here that I think it's a fair 'tradeoff'


It bums me out that this even needs to be said, we've had a solid 13 years of this being a generally unspoken truth with cosmetics and only in the past couple years have people really started to fuss about paint regions like this. This item adds too much team color to risk a waders-baggies situation, and beyond that I don't see any issue

A paintable zipper would suck lmao

but then the default color wouldn't have his normal white-TC contrast like his normal sleeves do

If we make it a more neutral color, it'd fill that role

but then people wouldn't be able to paint the shirt cool colors like black or tan

Change the paint region from shirt and sleeves to the zippers and you will have my vote. It's a very fun reference and made very well.

It's a shame this didn't get in this year.

i remember when we made fun of lime scouts because they were the ones being tasteless and irresponsible with paint. the fast learner benefits from being paintable the way it is, and the existence of bright paints doesn't undermine that. I think the same applies here; most people don't want to look like gaudy eyesores given the choice, and will opt to paint this item a color that's tasteful and fits a cohesive loadout.

anecdotally; it's been a long time since i even remember seeing a loadout that prominently uses bright paints. unless you're on a trade server or uncletopia, this is a non-issue

I would agree with you if the paint replaced a large portion of team coloring (a la waders) but it only covers the collar and butt a bit, and it adds far more team coloring than it removes.

I guess that's what you want my vote to be for every one of your submissions then

thx but no)

Does it have to have a massive paint region on the shirt? Why not do something similar that one spy jacket did by toning the paint down at the very least? This also doesn't really fit in the 60-70s setting of tf2, thriller was made in the 80s and so was Jackson's popularity. Regardless, it at least looks good and sorta fits demo and if we do get the zombie infection mode this would definitely be hell of a look so I'll vote yes. You should remember this critique though next time you make a cosmetic.

demoman good vibes

Praying

So do we lmao

I hope this gets in

easily one of the best items on the workshop right now

I NEED THIS, IF THIS GETS ADDED (SOMEHOW) IMMEDIATELY

IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER WITH OTHER COSMETICS YEEEEEEAHHHH BABEEE

IDK I didn't delete it

what happeend to chickens message :c

:)))

i looove this jacket

Yes pls

I usually don't bother giving criticism to workshoppers that don't adhere to tf2's art style but, I gotta give credit where credit is due, this fits and is a great cosmetic to boot.

this kicks a lot of ass.....

Hey alright amigo

yikes making something that's passible in the game? shocking. either way enjoy the cosmetic sets keep this kinda work up

thanks

cool